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@phantom16: Morals change everything, Aang barely even attacked with morals on. He straight up turned down an opportunity to throw a killing blow

Because he couldn' attack. He was too busy getting wrecked by Ozai. His only hope was to defend but he was still overwhelmed by Ozai's power. It was clearly shown that Aang cannot win without the AS. He would have died had the magic rock not been there.

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Team MCU take a solid majority. Kurse is the MVP and is superior to the kryptonians in almost every way except for speed but his reflexes make up for that. His feats are better and one of which involves him casually swatting Mjolnir as if it were a common house fly. This is far more impressive than the majority of the Kryptonians' feats by far IMO. His punches also wrecked a guy who survived a city explosion to the face and he no-sold Mjolnir to the back and sustained no damage. A durability that no one on team dceu can replicate. Never mind the fact that it took a black hole just to beat him.

Team Mcu with moderate difficulty at most and that is being very generous

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Aang gets murked again. I don't see how morals changes the end result. He is simply no match for Ozai without theAS. He would have died had it not been for the magic rock

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This is proof of your willful ignorance and clear cut bias. You've asked for proof, I gave it to you, and you still discount it.

Nope. The only thing you’ve proven is that kryptonians are vulnerable to Kryptonite radiation, which mind you, doesn’t even originate on earth. Superman routinely flies through space, which is filled with Ionizing radiation and other forms of radiation with no appaarent problems. Also, you do realise that the rediation only makes up 5% of the nuke?

Never mind the fact that Superman from Dark Knight Returns, where the nuke scene in the film was entirely inspired from was zombiefied from a nuclear explosion as well;

This is not the comics, mate.Not applicable here, I am afraid

When did he ever have to? He crashed through multiple buildings at high speeds and no-sold it;

Don’t overhype it. He crashed through 5 or 6 walls. A feat that Thor could easily replicate.

No, he wasn’t.

I like how you’ve cut the gif the moment before he passes out.

Soooooo, it did nothing more than send him flying? Point proven.

The fact that Thor can take blasts from a sun busting infinity stone that literally deconstructs matter is far more impresisve

Let's enter the minefield of proving that he can actually kill Hulk. I implore you to prove that.

Giving Thor’s striking feats and energy projection, he most certainly can kill Hulk if he wanted to

You're still not proving that his attack has done any lasting damage to anyone meaningful. This doesn't help your argument that he'd one shot.

When did I say he would one shot? Sure, before BvS he probably would have one shotted but with Supes new feats, he can probably survive a hit here and there before Thor detatches his head from his body

Uhhhhhhhhhh,

What? Am I supposed to be impressed by Superman staggering after a free fall when both Hulk and Thor have tanked terminal velocity falls? Heck, even Iron Man’s first armour tanked a similar crash and that wa safer getting hit by a shell

I love how you always use these things surrounded with context to fit your narrative. I'm surprised you didn't pull out your 'can't get up after a gas station explosion' card at this point. Continue to lowball. Like @never_give_up has said, use BvS feats that throw these things out the window, or better yet, acknowledge that

Says you? The one that cherry picks the feats that benefits his argument and ignores anything else that he doesn't like

He got hit with the steel beam after he destroying the World Engine and was working on the little energy he got from the sun

He had used even more energy escaping the singularity prior to his fight with Zod.

He was dazed for literally 2 seconds after being thrown threw the buildings and continued his fight with Zod straight up to the Thermosphere

The guy was literally on the verge of losing concioueness

Rubblish, Superman would have recharged his cells on his trip backs to metrololis.

When was he stunned by a car? A car landed on him in his fight with Zod and he threw it off.

He was clearly dazed. Enough so that it gave Zod the oppnening he needed to kick him over.

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Why would I need to bring this up when he's already done this?

bullets =/=explosions

You have not had a counterargument to my fighter pilot analogy. For him to react to and turn successfully at those speeds are proof enough that his reaction timing is impressive.

Your analogy is flawed. By your logic, a fighter pilot has supersonic reaction time since they can make share turns whilst moving at mach speed

Blitz - Attacking your opponent before they are able to react.

Lol, Proceeds to show me a gif of Superman suddenly tackling an unsuspecting Faora.

"Only seems fast" LMAOOO!!!! Lowballing

Hardly, especially if you've watch the film with your eyes open, which I am not entirely convinced that you have.

Besides your clear cut hate for Clark, you've got no proof that he exited the atmosphere to get back to Metropolis.

The funny thing is, I don’t even hate Superman. People just need to realise that DCEU is not comic Superman and has been tonned down a lot form his comic book counterpart. He has been consistently shown to be hurt and stunned by conventional weaponry and othe things and completely lacks combat speed. All he can do is fly at people in straight lines

you've got no proof that he exited the atmosphere to get back to Metropolis.

Did you actually watch any of the movies? Superman always flies up into space to travel around the planet. He did it when he went to India. Why wouldn’t he do it on the way back, especially seeing as he was in hurry and could get back faster by taking a shortcut into space instead of flying along the circumference of the earth

No, I'm not. Show me where Hulk is always necessarily using that much force that he used on the Leviathan. This is much like you've stated that Thor held back on the Helicarrier.

No, it’s not and I have already addressed this multiple times now. Thor had a reason to hold back. 1.) He didn’t want to kill Banner and was trying to reason him. 2.) He obviously didn’t want to cause too much damage to the hellicarrier, seeing as there were hundreds of workers and shield agents abroad. Hulk, on the other, was bloodlusted and had absolutely no reason to pull his punches. He was going to tear Natasha to shreds just prior had Thor not stopped him. It’s absurd that you think Hulk was pulling his punches.

I guess I'm also downplaying his durability when I show him bleeding and being dazed after getting hit with the boulder, right?

Yes, after taking multiple punches form Kurse, who strikes harder than any kryptonian. This is the being that bitched slapped Mjolnir like it was nothing.

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Wouldn't heat vision kill at least half the MCU team? After that the others just get killed.

Nope. Vision's body is vibranium, which required the combined power output of repulsors, lightning and the infinity gem to begin melting. Supes' HV has shown anywhere near that amount of power. Vision no-sells it or phases through the beam. Cap, Panther have vibranium suit and shield to protetced them ffrom it.

Thor has survived a city busting explosion to the face and baths in Gulgnir blasts, which disintigrates everything it touches. Never mind him bathing in lightning, which reaches the tempatures of the sun's surface

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@risingbean: superman weighs the same as a normal human would. The bullets never hulk him, it was just the pressure. How many times do u have to see it to admit ur wrong?

The fire from the A10 caused him to crash into a buidling and incaped him. He was out of comission for 30ish seconds and long enough for the A10s to fire at Nam-Ek and circle back around for a second attempt.

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