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#1 Posted by PapiNacho (3396 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked aspects of it, but it was poorly structured.

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#2 Posted by PapiNacho (3396 posts) - - Show Bio

@spideyivydaredevilfan26: Nope, they all justify their evil via their personal traumas, but they hurt, plunder and kill. Batman doesn't compromise with them because he knows that they is putting people at risk. Catwoman; whom usually doesn't hurt people, he has compromised with. Talia, before she went crazy he has compromised with. Etc. Etc.

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#3 Posted by PapiNacho (3396 posts) - - Show Bio

None, their reasons may be good, but the way they go about them makes them evil. Otherwise, Batman wouldn't stop them.

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#4 Posted by PapiNacho (3396 posts) - - Show Bio

Just like vice versa; Metropolis would not be as safe as it would be with Superman, but it wouldn't worse than it without the big guy.

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#5 Posted by PapiNacho (3396 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman would do worse than Batman, but he wouldn't make things worse than they would be without Bruce in the first place.

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#6 Posted by PapiNacho (3396 posts) - - Show Bio

Only when writers write SuperGod instead of Superman. Check out the Animated series to see how to do it right.

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#7 Edited by PapiNacho (3396 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000: Superman is already standing there, because he flew or ran there; presumably at super speed (my assumption based on the events). Why do I think Superman sped in front of the car?

1. Batman was already driving fast before turning and could not have seen Clark standing there. This indicates that he was either running away or pursuing something. We don't see anyone else other than Superman in front of him and why would Superman run away from Batman?

2. Batman turns when he actually sees Clark standing there; if he wanted to crash into him (and hurt him) he would have kept the in a straight line to maximize speed. You could say he did it to preserve his on life, but if he was worried aobut that why try to run him over in the first place?

Think about it; why would Batman, who was present at the battle of Metropolis, think that Superman could even be run over by a car?

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I think you're right about Superman giving the batmobile a light kick but it still doesn't really change anything. I don't see where you get Superman speeding in front of the car since the video just shows Superman standing there. At best he kicked it away because Batman was trying to run him over. At worst, if it does turn out he sped in front of the car on purpose, he's "guilty" of assaulting a violent vigilante lol

I'm not saying Supes is morally wrong here; I'm just saying Batman wasn't trying to murder him in this particular situation. Judging from the trailers and interviews however, he definitely will later.

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#8 Edited by PapiNacho (3396 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000: Not that I disagree about Bruce trying to straight up murder Superman, but if you take a good look at the video Batman makes a turn right before he crashes into Superman. There's no way that Batman could have seen Superman from around the corner. Thus what actually happened in that In that scene is that Batman was driving away and Superman super-speeded in front of his car. Bruce then had to do a last minute turn. Also, If you actually pause it, you see Superman's leg extending and actually gently nudging the Batmobile; which means Bruce did react in time, but Clark wanted to take him out then and there in order to presumably threaten him.

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#9 Posted by PapiNacho (3396 posts) - - Show Bio
@papinacho said:

My argument as to why Batman is going to win:

They made him the clear bad guy. We know that he's going have to suffer a moral defeat from Superman and accept him as a hero. To counterbalance that, he needs to win the physical fight or the entire movie will be a giant shit on the character. Does this make sense? To me it does, because Batman is about surpassing his limits and Superman is about making the right choices.

This makes plenty of sense. I am not so sure about him being the "clear bad guy" but they will both learn from each other. Besides it was clearly said in one trailer "If man won't kill God, then the Devil will do it" so Batman wins but he doesn't kill Clark and they both learn reediming qualities of each other.

Oh but he is:

http://www.empireonline.com/people/ben-affleck/batman-v-superman-exclusive-zack-snyder-asked-christopher-nolan-blessing/

This plus all the trailers were Batfleck has openly stated he wants to destroy Superman have me convinced that he is going to start this movie quite unhinged.

Anyways, there would be no point in having Batfleck state his intentions ti kill Superman is there won't be a later follow up scene were he has the chance and then doesn't.

On, the other hand Cav-El's victory is going to be Batfleck's redemption.

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#10 Posted by PapiNacho (3396 posts) - - Show Bio

My argument as to why Batman is going to win:

They made him the clear bad guy. We know that he's going have to suffer a moral defeat from Superman and accept him as a hero. To counterbalance that, he needs to win the physical fight or the entire movie will be a giant shit on the character. Does this make sense? To me it does, because Batman is about surpassing his limits and Superman is about making the right choices.