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Geeking out about Melinda May using the alias Chastity McBryde (from Elektra Assassin) in SHIELD this week.

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@wandasupremist: Thanks for letting us know. Intentionally using alts to evade a bad is all I need to put you and any alt on permaban.

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@andromeda1001:Thanks. And go for it with the New Warriors! I mean, I did one for Power Pack. For which, actually, I am slowly getting some New Warriors to pick up on Alex's New Warriors-era feats.

@zetsu-san:If there's one thing that's clear about comics, it's that one person's cringe is another person's favorite thing. Personally, I like it.

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The GIF of Saruman is a good reminder of him being able to fight melee.

But I think Dooku has by far the higher melee skill and would probably be able to disarm and then kill Saruman. In TK, I think Dooku's feats are probably better as well, with the multiple pillar/obelisk feat.

I don't think most of Saruman's spells are done with a quick reaction. I can't remember, did he just paralyze Gandalf at one point? And he shot a fireball.

I'm not sure if either could mind control the other but in a bloodlusted state they probably wouldn't try.

Overall I'd give it to Dooku in melee for sure, and also probably TK, which would be enough.

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Magik vs Nightcrawler

They are restricted to fighting with swords and teleportation (Magik can only teleport herself).

Nightcrawler has his hope sword, Magik has her soul sword (no armor).

Battle takes place in the Anasazi ruins, starting at 30'.

In character. Win by any means.

Who wins and why?

Magik
Magik
Nightcrawler
Nightcrawler

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@yuuki157: I had a bunch of total nonsense sentences that I apparently wrote in my sleep in the middle of the RT. It reminded me of when I was writing an art history paper in college and woke up to see the sentence "Clowns like ice cream" in the middle of my paper. Dreaming and writing simultaneously.

Anyway, yeah her range is definitely limited, although better than classic Rogue's touch-based ability. And I like that it's a little more open-ended than just getting powers. In theory, she could fight the leader of a group of villains and copy his circumstance of being the leader of the group of villains, and they would all obey her instead of the original guy, like she did with her high school principal or she talked about in terms of being president. It will be interesting to see if they continue using her post Fall of X (she hasn't been seen anywhere during the event) and in the hands of writers other than her creator.

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@toxicwandastan: warning for insults (which I have deleted). Don't be personal.

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A swordfight:

Living Blade, Swordsman (I), Typhoid Mary vs Colleen Wing, Blade, Black Knight (Whitman).

The most obscure one here is Living Blade, who fought Black Widow in her most recent volume...links from her RT:

The Blade is extremely skilled and has low-level superhuman strength, speed, and durability (he takes multiple Bites without much injury). In their first fight, years ago, he mostly had her on the defensive and on the run. In their second fight, she was able to tag him back more, especially with the aid of her powered suit, but he still won and cut her arm off, and was only chased away by Hawkeye. In their third fight, after her arm was healed by a mutate, she won.

Living Blade, Typhoid Mary, Colleen Wing, and Blade have katanas. Swordsman has his trick sword (concussive blast, fire, electricity, knock out gas). Black Knight has the Ebony Blade (and no trouble using it) and his standard armor.

Typhoid can't use her powers. Blade does not have his more recent shape-shifting/sorcery powers.

Battle takes place in Les Invalides in Paris, starting at 30'.

In character. Win by any means.

Who wins and why?

The Living Blade, Swordsman, Typhoid Mary
The Living Blade, Swordsman, Typhoid Mary
Colleen Wing, Blade, Black Knight
Colleen Wing, Blade, Black Knight

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@alex_ferrana_: Yes, if we extend the Moon Knight timeline into the era of Marc Spector: Moon Knight, you'd get his Punisher rivalry, and also some much more explicit bullet timing feats. But we're restricted here to what's in the Omnibus vols 1 and 2, which stops right before that.

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Gorgon, Ghost-Maker, and Kirigi vs Lady Deathstrike, Lord Deathstrike, and Silver Samurai

No stone stare or TP for Gorgon.

Standard gear for all.

Battle takes place on the London Bridge starting at 30'.

In character, win by any means.

Who wins and why?

Gorgon, Ghost-Maker, Kirigi
Gorgon, Ghost-Maker, Kirigi
Lady Deathstrike, Lord Deathstrike, Silver Samurai
Lady Deathstrike, Lord Deathstrike, Silver Samurai

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@allstarsuperman: The point about fighting other military guys with proven accuracy is valid, although some of the heroes also fight military guys. For instance, Moon Knight fought Arsenal, an LMD of Nick Fury, Conquer-Lord, Black Spectre, Bushman, and Master Sniper, among others in that era, all of whom have some kind of military experience or combat background.

Bullet dodging examples from that era that I don't think are super-replicable by the special ops team here due to the range or the fact that he's obviously using agility to dodge them in a way they couldn't would include:

Dodges a shot from Arsenal at point blank.

Dodges point blank gunfire.

Dodges shots from soldiers.

Dodges shot from point-blank range.

Dodges shots and closes in, in an agile way.

Dodges and closes in on a vampire woman with a machine gun at point blank range.

Dodges a vampire using a machine gun.

Dodges machine gun from ultra-point-blank range.

Marc dodges a bullet a point-blank range, and the guy says, “It ain’t possibleno one can move that fast!!”

I think this last one, and a number of other statements, make it pretty clear that these folks are not just missing him. He's fast and agile enough to get out of the way of point blank shots. Is it true, proven bullet-timing? Maybe not in the sense that we see the bullet leave the gun and then he reacts. But I do think it's implied in some of these, especially in the context of dodging feats from later volumes where he still didn't have powers.

For DD, the one I was thinking of was this, which again is not by Miller but in that general era. And while Matt in theory doesn't have enhanced speed and just uses his radar to track location, in practice he still reacted to superhuman speeds from characters like Kraven, Doc Ock, and Spider-Man on a regular basis in this era, and I don't think he could accomplish any of his bullet swatting without superhuman speeds.