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Looks good... kinda hope Hippolyta resurfaces as a frenimy, as in helping him one day, fighting him the next.

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Isn't this the usual thing with HYDRA? Someone new/old comes in and takes over and decides to take the organization in a new direction before they are either gunned down or usurped by one of the other factions or end up having to face down the Red Skull?

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@g_man said:

@outside_85: There's a cover gallery for RED SONJA. You can get a pretty clear shot at her. Just click the thumbnails.

Ah, I see.

Hmm, seems like they liked that blue mail thing she was wearing at some point in the recent past.

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They aren't bad as outfits, there's just a part of me thats thinking they aren't on the right characters.

Can't really tell if there's any major difference to Sonja's since she's covered in that enormous cloak.

Thoris looks likes a design from the John Carter movie. It's not bad, but it's kinda like giving Starfire a jumpsuit. She's an alien, her culture isn't human and she is from a hot planet where most people walk around bare-chested because of the heat.

Vampirella... its... Lara Croft meets the Huntress and given the Phoenix Force... (Admittedly I think she had the worst outfit to begin with, but this seems to have lost the recognition factor in the redesign... like Powergirls New 52 suit.)

@the_stegman said:

If this were DC or Marvel, people would be complaining so hard about the new costumes. But it's Dynamite, so no one will care.

People care but these characters are slightly less iconic and not as old as others like Wonder Woman.

Plus, the outdated looks were due for a change one way or another, at least this way the characters still look cool and resemble they way they were originally designed or retain their characters personalities appropriately.

DC changed Harley so she took more of a step backwards from a coverall leotard to a corset top and short-shorts so she looks more like a Halloween stores idea of a Harley Quinn costume.

Wonder Woman needed some updates, the one piece was cool but never made sense for combat, much like capes we're seeing more heroes dropping the old looks for new, modern looks.

Also, Dynamite is probably doing this to try and draw in more female readers because lets be honest, Red Sonja and Vampirella were probably drawing in mostly male readers for two very big reasons. At least they aren't doing what Marvel is doing and taking existing characters and drastically changing the characters to suit the modern times and try to draw in readers.

Odd, I was kinda thinking the only reason these characters were still seeing print was because they appealed to that niche of fans that still stick with classical noir type books... when they (as you say) didn't just appeal to male readers due to their lack of clothing.

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I just think that Batman envisioned Joker as he was thinking about WW story since Joker was his Gelos. Wherever people died there was laughter that followed him. and he hated him for him. That seems pretty clear cut for me.

In a way you are completely right and I suspect that it will be eventually revealed or debunked that it was just overlapping between what was on Batman's mind and Diana's recap.

But with that, you have to consider that Snyder recently did the exact same thing, hint that the Joker was somehow hundreds of years old. To my worried mind, that Johns now follows suit with this, indicated that DC is genuinely pondering whenever or not they want to reveal the Joker has been this supernatural force all along. They are after all willing to make us ponder the possibility.

As for Gelos... I'll be honest, I think that the tale is just a weird bastardization of the mythical Gelos. Diana's tale here makes him as one of the things the old Greeks would have put in Ares' chariot, while the actual Gelos was part of Dionysus' merry band. It just reeks of someone in DC wanting all things regarding laughter and probably clowns to be connected, somehow, to the Joker.

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@jonsmith: @outside_85: What makes you think those are sneakers they look more like boots to me. Were you expecting the Sorcerer Supreme to walk around in footie pajamas, or to battle the forces of evil in loafers? Strange's choice of footwear seems like an incredibly trivial thing to complain about.

The point is that it's not exactly attire we would expect to see the grand magicians of both Marvel and DC wearing. Big stompy boots and hoddies are fine for people like Black Alice and Nico Minoru, but not really what we expect to see the 'leaders' of the field wearing... It's like seeing the president in bunny slippers.

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Dr. Strange in sneakers, Dr. Fate in a hoodie...