@emotiealdemage9: I never said shinra is universe level but he is transcendent. Asserting dimensional Transcendence is better than destructive feats and shinra transcends all those concept and the higher adolla dimension it isn't deniable. Characters like yogiri are considered hyperversal but freaking Naruto displayed more destructive feats than yogiri.
Physical strength vs hax isn't stupid because those versus are done to see if hax can overcome raw power. It might work sometimes but sometimes not
@emotiealdemage9: : I think that it would be would be soul manipulation instead of reality warping.
Jin Mori was told by satan to be higher dimensional but it could be interpreted by the fact that satan was crumbling in fear because jin is hardly even universal.
For shinra, adolla dimension is said to be a higher dimension that embodies all human consensus and its concepts like mathematics, philosophy, religion, dimension, destiny. Everything that is within this dimension isn't harming shinra since he transcends it. Jin Mori would need some hax and really crazy ones to actually put up a fight
@emotiealdemage9: Shinra wins by immortality and superior hax. Then maybe you should change your vote in the poll
2.Even if OP doesn't explain, shinra will win the fight and it could be easier
3. Maitreya kill who? Shinra ? No. Existence erasure can't even scratch shinra. He will stop time and warp Maitreya into flowers
4. If Mori don't get hax, he will never win this
5. Shinra hax are too crazy for guy like Mori or Maitreya. Reality warping, fiction warping ( via the evangelist), time manipulation,time travel, higher dimensional Transcendence, immortality, dominance over the adolla concept.
@samsaknight: His amp with no known multipliers? It isn't really a matter here.
For the time, he literally said that it will take him some time: that alone put him far below relativistic as relativistic travel speeds cross a country in like a hundredth of second at least, then asta is far below that. His travel speed are trash like everyone one in this verse.
In took him several minutes because Natch started his serious fights again twin devils but they were jobbing with him for 3 chapters and then Asta came.
@samsaknight: After defeating the giant demon he said: even in my MODE UNION, it will take me a while to go to spade. Remember, after he beats the ancien demon ( chapter 284 or something); HE LITERALLY STATED it. In travel speed, he isn't relativistic
@emotiealdemage9: You didn't understand. I said that he clears the verse up to Satan where he loses. Also satan speed blitz could get dealt with Toriko's passive probability manipulation that will let him escape satan early attacks and then his infinite gungi punch will deal with the regeneration as it destroys the opponent from the inside until he vanishes. But I would give it more to Satan 666 than Toriko
It is an assumption you are making about him not wanting to waste time when him himself said: even in my union mode, it will take me a while. Also he tooks some minutes to travel to spade kingdom which when we compare to actual light means that Asta is even below lightning in travel speed. He doesn't have good travel speed feats.
Everything you said about combat speed is well known by anyone here. The thing is that MFTL black clover won't be relevant to Characters with actual MFTL speeds ( like atracks that cross solar system and reacting to those attacks).
Anyway, asta is far from being relativistic in travel speed