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@streak619:

Wrong. Nur has greater TK potency but bad AOE and range.

He said "thanks for letting me in" in a sarcastic manner. Which explains why he doesn't use it.

See the funny thing is you're trying to grasp at straws. Apocalypse has stronger telepathy, but it has no range or capacity to do anything? Sounds like not good telepathy, or maybe - guess what - he's not a telepath.

I can point to a myriad of other examples in the film that seem to contradict this point. But at this point it fall on deaf ears.

So Apocalypse is a telepath with no range and can't read minds.

Are you special? You do realise realise reacting QS after 10 seconds is still absolutely insane?:

Nice ad hominem attack. The sad thing is that you're taking this one outlier as representative of Apocalypse's reaction time, when during the entire course of the movie he's fighting people who are not even street level reaction time wise.

Getting cut in the throat by Mystique.

Having a sword at his throat by Psylocke.

The list continues with examples that completely contradict these outliers that comprise your entire argument.

Many explanations. He let her do it so as to prove that there was nothing they can do to him. Outljers, WIS etc.

Or you know maybe...just maybe...plot devices.

Except I have two feats. You have one.

No you don't. You're basing his reaction time on one outlying speed feat that contradicts his other showings. And as for the telepathy. Well, let's just keep that where it is.

Not quite. What I know is that you have to break a TK shield with one hit in order to destroy it. TK shields never ever retain damage over multiple hits. They take damage and then restore.

Sustained effort can break a TK shield. For example:

Jesus. Lemme spell it out for you:

FACT: Magnetic force does not have lifting and striking differences.

FACT: Magneto uses the magnetic force to lift and strike.

INFERENCE: Magneto doesn't have any lifting and striking differrnces.

I'm not going to argue this point anymore. It's pretty evident that Magneto can control the speeds in which he moves metal and that it does not necessarily correlate with how much he can actually lift. The semantics of which doesn't change this fact.

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@streak619:

I'm inclined to say otherwise. I don't believe such explicit plot devices can happen multiple times.

It's not multiple times. It's merely two times. And will address this in my next response.

Wrong, the first one was initiated by Apoc. He noticed Charles as he gazed at Magneto and then launched an attack on Charles and took control of his mind.

Except the fact that Apocalypse states: "thank you for letting me in." If Apocalypse was really a telepath, even a very mediocre one as you claim, he would have at least knew Mystique was posing as Psylocke or of the plan laid out by the ancient Egyptians. And is for that reason it is a plot device. It makes no sense whatsoever.

In base form he reacted to Quicksilver after getting punched around for 10 seconds. Putting him at MHS++ (Quicksilver was calced to be 1/3rd the speed of light).

Once again...this was after he was being punched around for 10 seconds. And this is from the same guy who was cut in the throat by Mystique right his face. I could equally say the feat you're mentioning is an outlier since there is nothing else to corroborate.

Analogical fallacy. It makes no sense because you're comparing Kevlar to telekinetic shields, which are different in nature and properties. Unlike kevlar, TK shields don't retain damage, hence you have to break them in one strike. So since Nur's TK shields will no sell Stormbreaker, Thor is doomed.

This is simply not true. While the damage is not reflected in the physical property of the tk shield, no doubt mental strain will set in with the user. This is evident in all comics featuring tk shields. As for my comparison, I was never claiming tk shields shared the same properties as kevlar. I was merely pointing out to an example of something that can be overpowered given enough strain. It need not be taken literally.

Which is cute since Hulk has been KOed by equally cute things: Hulkbuster and freefall.

Don't lowball. Considering that the Hulkbuster was designed to fight Hulk one would assume it would actually accomplish that task. And a free fall from at least 30,000 to 40,000 feet (low estimate if we assume the Hellicarrier is flying at the same altitude as commercial jets).

Wrong. Magneto applied x amout kf force to perform that feat.

Never said that there was no force behind it, but rather we cannot reasonably estimate how much. 'X' amount is still an undefined variable in this instance.

Hence he used x amount of force against Apoc. Probably more because he was really straining himself.

Yes, 'x' the unknown amount of force. Exactly what I was saying...

Magnetic fields don't have lifting and striking classifications.

You are right, but Magneto sure does when it comes to magnetically lifting and propelling metal. Please don't try to red herring.

EDIT: The videos never appeared in the original link. Here is what I'm referring to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcLmyi46VYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdWJ-Njeaig&t=167s

Shaw, who was weaker and less durable than Thanos, was completely unfazed by Magneto's attacks in the first film.

When did Apocalypse ever display telepathy?? The whole premise of the movie was that he was trying to get the power of telepathy via body takeover of Charles.

And to those claiming Apocalypse has great reaction time, he got his throat slashed by Mystique...

Even if we entertain the idea that Apocalypse's force field could block Stormbreaker, it cannot block continuous strikes by Thor. Thor nearly KOed Hulk in Ragnarok without Stormbreaker and this was when his innate powers were just manifesting. In the end of the film, he was simultaneously able to call down lightning bolts and hit enemies with his fist, which were electrified.

I haven't seen Infinity Wars so I can't comment on Thor's more recent feats.

Star Lord. Peter is too naive and would fall into one of Quill's traps.

Don't remember anything noteworthy from like 90 percent of the Sternritters. I also have a feeling that most people don't know the abilities of the Nanatsu No Taizai characters if they think the Sternritters are the only one with 'hax.'

Eh, can't really remember any notable feats by some of the Gotei 13. Though two of the Commandments are pretty featless as well.