@mark_stephen said:@oldnightcrawler said: @mark_stephen said: Another Avengers title? Nice jab at the fans who don't like Sam as Captain America.why would you assume that's what it is?can't it be, like, an Avengers book for fans who do like Sam? it's not like you have to read it if you don't..The point where the bystander on panel 1, page 3 says 'not my Captain America' and person beside him tells him not to be a jerk. That in my opinion is a shot at the readers who don't like the move.Didn't catch that, but you could be right.then again, saying 'not my Captain America' about a guy who literally just saved 4 people's lives -in a totally amazing way- is still being a jerk, it just is. It's like showing up to a pool party just to crap in the pool.The difference in my opinion between the first Avengers or even the first Spider-man was that appeared on the scene when super types were very rare. There weren't a lot of options when you were forming the Avengers and part of the entire cw/initiative storyline was the danger of untrained heroes. Now normal people in the mu seem to be the minority and getting superpowers and being an Avenger is like going to the DMV/RMV and getting a drivers license. The Avengers aren't anything special, not with so many titles, anymore than being an X-man was special in the 1990s. It's a franchise that marvel will milk dry and then slaughter the teams in some big event. Remember how easily Alpha Flight and the New Warriors were tossed into the tar? That'll be the Avengers when sales drop.I don't think the Avengers will ever go the way of the New Warriors, but I could be wrong. I dunno, I never follow more than one or two Avengers books at any one time, so to me the ones that are special are just the ones I like, and right now this is the only Avengers book I'm interested in, so it might as well be the only one.I mean, I know there are lots of other characters who could be on the team, but there's lots of reasons any of those characters might be busy too. And speaking of the initiative, since the Avengers themselves have been training new heroes almost since the beginning, I see no reason why they wouldn't continue to.Look at the line up, you have four or five characters who've basically lucked into powers and names that already have a history so there's not a lot of effort needed to establish them. Just slap them into the team, throw in some super villains and you've got an Avengers title and the name Avengers in the title is like McDonalds, or Burger King in the restaurant name. People will know what to expect so they'll be more likely to pick it up where some indy title that is really good and innovative will get overlooked. Might be good stories, might not be, but like the new X-men title with Storm in the lead it will mostly likely be a re-working of an earlier plotline/event.I don't totally disagree with what you're saying, but I guess that's just not the level on which it apeals to me. See, I really like Falcon, but it's only recently that there's been many stories with him as a main character, for me that's exciting. Kinda same with Vision, in the last decade anyway. And I like Iron Man. And, new or not, I like Jane Foster and Kamala. I don't really know the others, but for 5 characters I am genuinely interested in, in a book that does look genuinely fun, I'll give the others a shot. I dunno, to me that doesn't seem drastically different than any classic Avengers lineup.