Odinsonnn

This user has not updated recently.

315 0 9 7
Forum Posts Wiki Points Following Followers

Odinsonnn's forum posts

Avatar image for odinsonnn
Odinsonnn

315

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

7

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#1  Edited By Odinsonnn

@superbot400

Relax. Re-read what I actually posted.

I have not made any such claim. I merely stated Yata Mirror's 100% effectiveness at blocking everything it has encountered thus far. My only claim was "are you able to prove that GL constructs (which have been blocked/destroyed a number of times) can break through the Yata Mirror?"

You have not answered that question. All you did was get extremely upset and present a tangent of information.

PS.

Nice durability feat for a Daxamite (kryptonian level durability) (the only one directly within the explosion) except Sodam Yat is not present in this thread. As for the other lanterns the scans do not show their proximity to the explosion, nor do they show any Lantern mentioned in this thread.

Avatar image for odinsonnn
Odinsonnn

315

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

7

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@kidman560: Yeah I was thinking the same thing about New 52 Guy (not enough feats).

High-tier, huh? Lemme think (I prob. won't put Nagato against DC heavy-hitters). Superboy and Supergirl are pretty generic, tho I don't mind if you really wanna use them. Loki and Cable are very rare LOL.

In that case I can do Thor, Sentry, Nagato (if you use Loki or Cable) or Hulk.

(lemme know if that's too high-tier)

Avatar image for odinsonnn
Odinsonnn

315

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

7

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@kidman560: I really wanna use manga characters. Are you familiar with Nagato (from Naruto)?

Avatar image for odinsonnn
Odinsonnn

315

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

7

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#4  Edited By Odinsonnn

@lowlaville: Do you have proof that Yata Mirror only blocks nature transformations? Because shonen database states, and I quote, Yata mirror has "the power to change all of its physical properties, allowing it to alter its attributes to the attributes of the attack, rendering it ineffective"

Nowhere in there does it state "only nature transformations" or "only ninjutsu". It implies literally any attack.

Now @superbot400: has a point in that these "claims" have yet to be tested on something comparable to DC heavy hitters (arguable whether GL is a hh).

But the only tangible evidence we have is that diagnostic from the database and the fact that Yata mirror has never actually failed at blocking an attack.

It would seem the burden of proof is attached to the GL being able to prove that they can break through, instead of just power scaling and speculation.

(ie something that maybe states GL constructs have never been blocked) which I could tell you now is false.

PS. @lowlaville: Danzo was never able to re-open his sharingan with Senju DNA. That's also false. Whenever you use Izanagi you lose the light in that eye forever. The senju DNA was there to assist in using Izanagi (which he still couldn't perfect).

Itachi cannot use Izanagi.

Avatar image for odinsonnn
Odinsonnn

315

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

7

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#5  Edited By Odinsonnn

@superbot400 said:

However, argument that Genjutsu manipulates non-Naruto verse character doesn't work because AGAIN the series has already told people that have existed without charka.

Granted this is awful writing(this is literally shits everything established by the series for the worst), but it suggests that Charka isn't nessaraily chi, but the Ten Tail's powers.

All of this is understood, my friend. But for the purposes of THIS debate and THIS particular battle thread my OP rules/assumptions instruct viners to debate with the idea that the Sharingan (and all of its genjutsu) works just as it does in the Naruto universe. The GL rings work just as they do in the DC universe.

The purpose was to avoid all of this nonsense in which ppl waste their time debating whether the contestants' abilities work on each other, and to instead focus on the actual battle. That is why you make battle rules, and why you clean up the assumptions of the battle. So things like this don't happen. Of course GL don't have chakra, but it could also be argued that their rings are ineffective in this battle because Oa simply does not exist here. That would be circular debate which is why I specifically cleared that up.

If you still wish to argue whether or not genjutsu works then you are probably in the wrong thread.

@lowlaville said:

@sirneko: Yata Mirror repels ninjutsu. I dont know Lanterns used ninjutsu. Totsuka Blade can seal them, but they would have to pierced by it first. And lanterns are fast. So like, well Itachi would have to hit the lanterns using it.

This is false. In fact, the first thing ever shown to be blocked on panel were explosive tag kunai. No chakra involved whatsoever.

The final scan (from shonen database) should clear any discrepancies.

@darkraiden Read the OP please: "Sharing works just as it does in Naruto universe"

GL do not have planet level durability. The layer of energy from the ring protects their very human vessel. Even so, 'tis a spiritual weapon; mass nor physical density matter. Totsuka blade should have no problem.

No Caption Provided

A better argument made was totsuka's potential inability to seal due GL's speed (actually catching him with it) rather than durability.

Avatar image for odinsonnn
Odinsonnn

315

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

7

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#6  Edited By Odinsonnn

@lowlaville: The full jutsu Izanagi requires both Senju and Uchiha life force (or DNA), and Itachi has never used Izanagi. The only of the two sharingan kinjutsu Itachi has displayed was Izanami, and that was once against Kabuto.

Only Madara, Obito (as Tobi) and Danzo (the incomplete version) have used Izanagi.

PS: Viner's battle: Itachi vs Kakashi?

Avatar image for odinsonnn
Odinsonnn

315

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

7

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@kidman560: Nice! I could do either of those. Or both.

Avatar image for odinsonnn
Odinsonnn

315

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

7

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@lowlaville: Catching Zoom is impressive.

Kakashi was at no point superior to Itachi in any aspect (strength, speed, skill, chakra etc.) tho.

Avatar image for odinsonnn
Odinsonnn

315

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

7

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

@dratini1331: LOL they both cost the user his/her eye, yes. What I'm saying is you meant to refer to Izanami, the ability that Itachi is able to use (traps the victim in an endless loop). Izanagi on the other hand requires Uchiha and Senju life force, Itachi cannot use that.

I will refrain from debating how Izanami would work. But yes Tsukyomi is also a viable option.

Avatar image for odinsonnn
Odinsonnn

315

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

7

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#10  Edited By Odinsonnn

@lowlaville: If you agree with @zmasonite: then you are contradicting yourself.

Travel speed accounts for the time it takes to build up acceleration and assuming it is a relatively direct path, unimpeded, towards your destination. Combat speed (which is required to react and dogde fast attacks like Amaterasu) is totally different. You must be able to prove FTL (or just fast period) reaction speeds from green lanterns.