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It really depends on what you value most: consistency or peaks. The Silver Surfer is a more relevant and popular character, therefore we have a lot more info on him. He has a much greater number of feats to exemplify than Drax. If you go by the classic Drax of the Forever People comics, that got easily defeated by Darkseid more than once, then I'd say the Surfer has a slight edge. Not that Darkseid wouldn't defeat the surfer as well, but I'd like to think that it would take more than a stare. Surfer has more than a slight edge if u go by post-annihilation surfer, who got a power boost. If you go by the Infinity-Man of the death of the new gods, that's a whole other story. He killed Orion without much of a fight. The same Orion that has more than once had extended fights against Darkseid and hold his own for a while. He was, after all, doing work for the Source, and in that role it's only reasonable to assume he was unbeatable.

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#2  Edited By NowhereMan

@Stegman: I didn't say DC heroes are perfect. Yeah, they are flawed, but it's just different from Marvel. I mean, you don't see Hal Jordan telling the Guardians he can't go save Jupiter cause he has to work overtime in order to pay the rent. You don't see Superman struggling in his relashionship with Lois, on the verge of divorce. You don't see WW stopping at a KFC to get a snack.
You may try hard to look past the superhero identity to get to the individual at DC, but the superhero identity is nearly always more important than their personal lives. But if you take Iron Man for example, the fact that he is Tony Stark and his personality traits are always more important to the stories than the fact that he is Iron Man.

It's not about power level either. Marvel has several very powerful heroes. But even the Silver Surfer who's to be one of the least relatable Marvel characters is always having existential crisis to which we can all relate. The point is that the DC stories are centered on the image of the super-heroes, while Marvel ones are centered on their personalities. One is to inspire and the other is to relate.

Of course I can cite exceptions on both universes to this, like Roy Harper being a heroin junkie or Thor's Ragnarok saga. But what I mean is that this is how it works overall.


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#3  Edited By NowhereMan

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That's a great point, and the core of the question IMO. Marvel doesn't have an iconic woman like Wonder Woman because Marvel isn't like that at all. It's not even about the spotlight, cause in that caseI actually think Storm has been in the spotlight more than WW for at least the past 2 decades.

That's the main difference between Marvel and DC. DC is all about icons, role models, the best of the best.. As many characters as they have, the focus always end up on one of those 10 or so characters that really drive this universe. That's also why they have so many legacy heroes, to continue and give depth to these amazing icon's stories. The DC heroes are kinda like gods living in their Olimpus-like base, isolated from the rest of humanity (sattelite, underwater, the moon etc). They see humanity as defenseless people who need protection and humanity sees them as the great and holy saviors. Even the heroes issues are godlike, such as "am I doing too much?" or "am I taking away their free will?".

Marvel works differently. It's more about your next door neighbour who got superpowers. Even a character that is a god such as Thor is flawed and makes mistakes of a humain nature. Their base is a mansion on 5th Av. There really isn't that line between them and the rest of humanity. They're just other people, like you and me, who happen to have superpowers. It's all about relatable characters, not icons per se. There aren't really many male characters who are iconic as well. The only iconic character I see is Captain America. The rest, such as Spider-Man, aren't icons. They're just people trying to do good to the best of their judgement.
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well, my family and friends have me to inform them, so even though they're not interested in comic books they actually know of a few Marvel females (thogh mostly cause of movies), such as Rogue, Jean Grey, Storm, Mystique and Invisible Woman. If I had to make a top  of most important females in Marvel Comics I guess they'd be:

01 - Storm
02 - Invisible Woman
03 - Jean Grey
04 - Rogue
05 - Elektra
06 - Mystique
07 - Emma Frost
08 - She Hulk
09 - Wasp
10 - Scarlet Witch
11 - Ms. Marvel
12 - Shadowcat
13 - Spider-Woman
14 - Black Widow
15 - Psylocke
16 - Enchantress
17 - Black Cat

These are the ones that matter. The rest are just backgroud characters.