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#1  Edited By noobsnowman

@killmonger101:

Goku goes from SSB to SSBKKX10 and straight up starts moving while time is skipped and states that he’s now beyond it: (https://youtu.be/iM_cfZP7Vbg?si=c62OSVFTeq0v_3pl)

I get that, but I'm saying that he went x10 only after he figured out how to predict and block Hit's attacks. Goku is beyond time because he already adjusted his entire fighting style to predict attacks.

There's a reason why Goku started at base form instead of going to Blue from the start: He knew that going all out from the start isn't going to work without some sort of strategy to counter Hit's Time Skip. Vegeta tried doing that and look where that got him.

With Jiren, they straight up say it’s because he’s stronger than time that he can do what he does here: (https://youtu.be/ernLIqbuTjM?si=x7fUSBEWbySAyV86)

And one reason why his power is beyond time is because of his precognitive abilities that I mentioned earlier. Hit mentioned that the reason why Jiren managed to get by his Time Skip is because similar to Goku, Jiren also anticipated his Time Skip.

Again, there's a reason why the much weaker and fodder Dyspo got headway against Hit when he shouldn't have. It's not because of his power, it's because of his highly advanced hearing abilities - which coincidentally speaking also explains why Goku in Kaioken could match Hit, it also gives Goku increased hearing abilities. If there is evidence that a much weaker character could get headaway against Hit, while Hit has a track record of having the upper hand against much stronger beings than said character, it is evidence that power does not counter Time Skip.

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Now that I think about it, that's true.

It comes down to a who hits who first scenario. If Gohan hits first, he wins. If Hit hits first, he wins.

But Gohan must not let up, Hit cannot be allowed to be given any sort of breathing room to utilise any of his killing techniques.

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@killmonger101: The only reason why Goku did it was because he already adjusted his fighting style to counter Hit's Time Skip, therefore making his increased sensing abilities that came from the Kaioken all the more relevant.

Jiren has precognitive abilities, during the start of the tournament he was able to predict that the rocks would not hit him, while literally every other fighter focused on dodging it. Having such abilities is key to counter Hit's Time Skip, because it is exactly the same as predicting where Hit would attack like what Goku did.

There's a reason why SSB Vegeta failed to counter Hit's Time Skip but the equally powerful SSB Goku could. Or that Dyspo, who is far below SSB tier, was able to counter Hit's Time Skip, but Hit easily was able to get the upper hand over the much stronger Goku not too long prior.

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I don't know what that is. Sorry :(

A Beerus stan is someone who is incredibly delusional in face of the facts.

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Namek is the best, yeah.

Cell Saga comes a close second.

The thing is that Dragonball Z was supposed to end at the Namek Saga, Goku was supposed to die, and Super Saiyan was meant to actually be a transformation of legend, not a bargain sale like it is today.

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@omega7373663: How exactly can Gohan blitz when Hit can easily transverse to another dimension? Hit is also capable of attacking while being in a completely different dimension altogether. Gohan can blitz if he could adapt his body to anticipate attacks like Goku did, sure, but does he have the luxury of time to be able to get to that point? That is if Gohan could figure out how to counter Hit's Time Skip to begin with, even Vegeta failed to figure out how to counter Hit's weakest version of Time Skip.

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I was able to say Hit gets stomped until I saw that it's anime Hit. Manga Hit gets stomped without a doubt.

Power is not the answer to Hit's Time Skip in the anime. Gohan may be more powerful but does he have the experience or the precognition to anticipate Hit's attacks?

Bear in mind that Goku, who is significantly more seasoned in battle compared to Gohan, literally had to die in order to figure out Hit's killer move.

Gohan only has a chance if morals are on and Hit dosent go straight for the kill right away. In a bloodlusted match, Hit is not going to give Gohan the chance to adapt to his attacks, Gohan is not going to last long in a scenario that favours Hit, unfortunately.

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Fake character, terrible ordering.

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Are you okay with biological women seeing the privates of biological men in changing rooms meant for women?

Are you okay with biological men competing in women's sports and having an unfair advantage from the start?

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@solarwind said:

If everyone with a strong opinion on this conflict were rounded up globally and shipped right to the frontlines of this conflict the world would genuinely become a far better place in a few months.

Ah, the moral superiority of fence-sitters.