nick_hero22

@nick_hero22: What's the point of thread if you got a clear winner in mind?

@nick_hero22: She's much faster than Batman. She may not be one of the Quickest Shinobi but she would be around Spider-Man levels of Speed and agility which Batman is not gonna be able to keep up with. She would tag him before the other way around. Added that she could just punch the ground near him and cause a 100 foot wide Crater and use that time where Batman is staggered from the ground around him collapsing to one shot him. I love Batman but I don't see him realistically beating her with Standard Gear. Batman is writen in a way where he always prevails against superhuman people with this or that but Honestly most the reason why he lives is Plot Armor.

He would die from absolutely any Real Super Strength Villain hitting him once. Yet he has Fought Solomon Grundy and countless others who Superman has trouble with on and off and he is fine lol ok that makes sense. My Favorites are when Him and Nightwing beat Amazo etc. Batmans attacks hurt Grundy as much as Supermans. Just think about that.

If you had a completely Unbiased Fight with Solomon Grundy and Batman, Batman dies literally every single time.

@nick_hero22: Batman can use anesthetic gases against Sakura. He could use flash bang pellets and knock her unconscious with a pressure point or nerve strike. Batman has some options in this fight. Sakura doesn't start off fights with her healing factor.

Do Batman know everything about Sakura or simply base information ? If he knew everything about her, yes Batman win the fight but if he has only basic information (medic with super strengh) Sakura woud manage a win.

IF Batman literaly know everything about Sakura and the ninjas as species. And learned their way of fight. Then yeah why not. He took all justice league members or white martians with prep. Sakura aint a greater threat.

But if he just have a superficial, general knowledge. Its not enough. Sakura can trick him with a kawarimi anytime she want and kill him.

And biggest problem is Batman aint has any way for putting Giant Katsuyu-Sama down.

Sakura biggest asset is not her super strengh but her healing factor and medical justsu.....that will permit her to survive what Batman trow at her, and then she could need only one good hit to take it.

@nick_hero22:

I already covered this, Lee had his weights on during that encounter and fell for Dosu's jutsu because he had no idea how it worked. And I was largely talking about Sasuke's feat, not Lee's. Lee doesn't get his speed feats until his fight with Gaara.

It doesn't matter if Batman is more skilled than Shin, he's vastly inferior in terms of physicals, so you can't use him beating Sakura as an excuse for Batman being able to.

Except she doesn't need to because I don't need a Kage level character to stomp Batman in a random encounter. I never said Sakura could defeat Sasori by herself, but she does have the ability to react to him at least to some degree even without Chiyo. And if you're talking about Sasori wanting them to kill him, that was at the end of the fight and he was still trying to win prior to that. Also considering that she has 100 Healings(which Batman has no counter for btw), she doesn't to obey the medical shinobi rules, so she can be in combat as much as she wants.

Madara blitzed a bunch of featless shinobi and against SM Naruto he got caught by Gaara and had to use the Rinnegan to avoid Rasenshuriken. He doesn't have a speed feat proving he can blitz them yet we both know he could because he scales to the characters he fights later on. He doesn't do anything like Lee did, yet we know they aren't in the same league at all, that's my point.

As for the Kimi thing I don't remember them having the chakra cloak around them so I'm not sure they were KN0 but I could be remembering it wrong. Regardless it's not like Lee or KN0 is slow or anything so that's a feat for him. Kimi's skill compared to Naruto's also had a huge part in that.

Personally I have her adult version at MHS+ through scaling since she was implied to have become equal to or surpass Tsunade during the war, but honestly it's kind of irrelevant. Batman doesn't have an answer for her regen or summon at all even if we argue they're the same speed. And this is also ignoring the fact she can just punch the ground and break it under Bruce's feet and there isn't too much he can do about it.

@nick_hero22: I already covered why Lee had problems with Dosu and it wasn't his speed, he didn't know how the attack worked until it was too late.

So you mean it doesn't matter when the character that fodderizes Sakura is vastly superior to Batman?

Dosu can say anything he wants, Sasuke went back, grabbed Naruto and Sakura, moved them out of the way, and then moved behind Zaku before he could realize what happened, unless you think he was just going to wait politely while he moved them despite targeting them with the attack? Sasuke later copies the speed of weightless Lee to blitz Gaara's sand which is capable of timing explosions, so it's not like Lee's speed is actually reflected here accurately if it was since he had weights on.

Sakura learned to control her chakra like Tsunade, not to just be a medical ninja. She was able to fight Sasori, a Kage level opponent, alongside Chiyo, and before you say it was Chiyo controlling her, that was only initially. Later on she was able to act on her own and do just fine.

I brought up Madara because he doesn't have speed feats on his own nearly as good as 5th Gate Lee's, so by that logic he'd get blitzed hard by a Part 1 genin. I don't think I need to say how ridiculous that sounds. As for Kakashi needing his Sharingan, Kakashi improved greatly over the course of the series, so it's not like it was War Arc Kakashi that needed his Sharingan, otherwise that would put him at speeds near KCM Naruto.

As for the Kimimaro thing, that was drunk Lee, which was a major amp for him. The minute Lee started to go into Gates after sobering up he reacted to him fine. This part was a bit odd but that's what happened. It's not like it makes KN0 slower considering it can go FTE to Neji who didn't find that speed special at all, in fact he trounced Lee in every match they had.

@nick_hero22: Shin is a good deal faster than Batman by scaling so it's irrelevant. Shin would blitz Batman too with no effort. Also no, anyone noteworthy during the Chunin Exams would blitz Batman hard, hell even Kiba would be too fast for him.

Oh, you mean that same fight where Sasuke not only dodged a sound-based attack, but moved both Naruto and Sakura out of the way before blitzing the guy who was shooting it at him? Rock Lee struggled with Dosu because he had no idea how his jutsu worked, not because he was too slow. If you say those two are faster than adult Sakura then by that logic Rock Lee in the 5th Gate is capable of blitzing someone like Madara even as far back as the Chunin Exams, which makes no sense.

Batman gets blitzed and turned to paste unless he can use all his tech(meaning stuff like the Hellbat).