Planet Namek is REAL!

In Dragonball Z Episode 37 and Manga Chapter 244 Mr Popo shows Bulma the space ship that Kami/Piccolo arrived on Earth in. In both They use the word "Piccolo" to open and close the door and Mr Popo translates Bulma's command to fly to Jupiter.

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Now, while I don't normally like to use the anime for a time-frame because it slows down and speeds up the flow of time for the benefit of the viewer, I'm going to use it on this occasion as if each second of the show is a second in real time because Bulma is in this scene and she's constantly doing things in it.

The Characteristics of Planet Namek

1. According to Dragonball Z Episode 53 and Manga Chapter 264, the Planet Namek has 3 Suns:

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2. Bulma has no problem walking around the planet, therefore we know it has something close to Earths gravity.

3. Because Namek has liquid water, we know it exists in the "habitable zone" of its stars.

Speed of the Ship

In the anime, it takes Kami's ship 57 seconds to take Bulma and Mr Popo to Jupiter. Jupiter is the 5th planet away from the Sun in our Solar System. At it's closest, Jupiter is 588 million km away from Earth. At it's farthest, Jupiter is 968 million km away from Earth. At it's farthest, the Sun would be in between the two planets, so its unlikely Jupiter would have been in this location relative to the Earth.

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Note: It's actually not as simple as the diagram above because both orbits are elliptical, not circular, but it works for demonstration purposes

If Kami's ship made either of these distances in 57 seconds, then the speed range is:

  • Lowest - 10,315,789.47 km/s - 34.41C
  • Highest - 16,982,456.14 km/s - 56.65C

Distance to Namek

In both the manga and the anime it took Kami's space ship 37 days to make the journey from Earth to Planet Namek. This does represent a margin of error since we dont know if it was exactly 37 days or a few hours either side of that time-frame, but for the sake of argument, I will use exactly 37 days with a 12 hour margin of error.

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Using the high and low speeds of Kami's ship, its possible to determine how far away from Earth Planet Namek actually is. If the ship travels 588 million km in 57 seconds, then that's an average of 10,315,789.47 km/s. There are 3,600 seconds in an hour, 24 hours in a day and 37 days to this journey, so:

  • Low speed distance - 32,977,515,789,473.7 km - 3.486 lightyears +/- 0.047 lightyears
  • High speed distance - 54,289,515,789,473.7 km - 5.739 lightyears +/- 0.078 lightyears

Potential Real Stars

In the real world, scientists are able to determine a stars size, type, distance and in some circumstances, if it has planets and how much mass those planets have. When it comes to the stars around our Solar System, has a handy infographic:

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I cut the list short of the 53 that were on it, because as it turns out I'm only interested in the very top of the list.

There is but one solitary star that fits in the range of 3.486 - 5.749 lightyears, whether or not you account for the 12 hour margin of error, and that is Alpha Centauri which is between 4.22 and 4.3 lightyears from Earth (depending on position in orbits)

Alpha Centauri

Alpha Centauri, believe it or not, is a binary star system with an orbiting 3rd star. Alpha Centauri as a system, has 3 stars:

  • Alpha Centauri A
  • Alpha Centauri B, and
  • Alpha Centauri C (Proxima Centauri)

Of those three stars there only one confirmed planet among them, and it belongs to Proxima Centauri. This planet is designated Alpha Centauri Cb (or Proxima Centauri b). It has an estimated mass of 1.27x Earths Mass and exists within the Habitable Zone of it's star, meaning it has a surface temperature that can support liquid water.

If you use a density scale of the largest rocky celestial bodies of our solar system as a guide, Proxima Centauri b would have a surface gravity of between 1.128G and 1.936G, meaning it would be possible for humans to walk on its surface. With a given mass, Promixa Centauri b would exist on the below graph anywhere on the darker blue line:

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Given it's Earth-like mass and molten core, it's more likely to have a lower density and be toward the 1.128G end of the gravity range.

All Things Considered

Given that both Namek and PCb

  • have 3 stars,
  • are in the habitable zone
  • have an Earth-like gravity a human could live on, and
  • exist between 3.486 - 5.749 lightyears from Earth

I do believe that Planet Namek is in fact real and is actually the planet Proxima Centauri b.


Why the Dragonball Universe is OUR Universe

The debate over the size of the DB Universe has unreasonably kept going for far too long, and there are two versions of this miniaturising. The first is that the radius of the DB Universe is 1 million km, and the second is that the DB Universe only contains 4 galaxies.

1 million km Radius

The source of the first is down to the manga release 'Globe of the DB World':

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In the above globe, the solid looking firmament, or base of the globe, is The Universe. It is the stars and planets and space - the living world. Slightly larger than this is The Cosmos, the location of Hell, the Kai's (gods) and Heaven.

One aspect of The Cosmos is Snake Way, said in the manga [Chapter 205] to be 1 million km long which leads to one of the 4 Kai's planets - the North Kai, King Kai. While King Kai's planet is not situated at the edge of the Cosmos, the winding nature of Snake Way has, over the years, lead many to the conclusion that the entire Globe of the DB World is close to 1 million km in radius.

So why is this wrong?


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Scale is a BIG issue for this theory. King Kai's planet when compared to his car, a 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air, is approximately 63m in diameter. When compared the the Globe, the DB world would be little more than 3km (1.9 miles) in diameter, which is obviously incorrect. The purpose of this is simply to demonstrate that the scale of the contents of the Globe is not accurate, or anything close to it, so any measurements taken from it are unreliable.

Known Planets

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If the DB World is 1 million km in radius, the Universe is 979,310.3km, and failing a 3D location,

  • Planet Vegeta is 596,551.7 km from Earth.
  • Planet Freeza is 508,620.7 km from Earth.
  • Planet Namek is 437,931 km from Earth.

Regardless of the fact nobody knows the size of planets Vegeta, Freeza and Namek, we do know that Namek is similar in type and gravity as Earth and is likely similar in size, and we know that Earth is considered a small planet by both Frieza and Vegeta and that Planet Vegeta has at least 10x Earths gravity, which means that in all likelihood Planets Freeza and Vegeta are larger than Earth.

It's worth pointing out at this juncture that the Moon is 384,400 km away from the Earth. In other words, even if Planets Namek, Freeza and Vegeta are all the same size at the Earth, the would all appear larger than the moon in the night sky. To emphasise the point, even if all of the planets were 2 million km (the diameter of the Globe according to the theory) an Earth-sized planet would still be 70.5% the apparent size of the moon in the night sky.

To labour the point, Freiza had at least 79 planets in his empire, and that doesn't include Yardrat.

There are no other visible planets in the night sky of the Dragonball Earth.

The Solar System

The Real Earth and the Real Solar System as well as surrounding space also provide plenty of information in regard to this theory of the DB Universe.

  1. The Earth is 12,742 km in diameter and would be 0.64% the total diameter of the DB World.
  2. The Moon, as stated, is 384,400 km away from the Earth a distance that would equal 19.2% of the diameter of the DB World.
  3. The Sun is 1,391,400 km in diameter.... 69.6% of the diameter of the DB World according to this theory. Furthermore, the Sun would fill 33.65% of the total volume of the DB World.
  4. The Earth orbits the Sun at an average distance of 146 million km. A distance 73x greater than the theory suggests is the diameter of the whole Dragonball World.

The above only accounts for our small part of the Solar System, it doesn't account for the larger and more distant parts, or indeed the other many stars in the Dragonball night sky.

4 Galaxies

The theory of the Dragonball World only containing 4 galaxies originates in the anime Dragonball Z [Episode 195].

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After Goku brought Cell to King Kai's planet to self destruct and killed them both as well as Bubbles and Gregory, King Kai is taking Goku to the Grand Kai's planet and explains that he is the North Kai, there are three others (East, South and West) and the Grand Kai is their boss. King Kai says that they preside of the North, South, East and West Galaxies.

This though, is only said in the Japanese with English sub, not the English dub - which calls them "quadrants". The Daizenshuu also called them "area's" and so this is often said to be a mistranslation and that it should be "area" or "quadrant"... that's not true. King Kai uses the word Ginga 銀河 which means 'Galaxy' so translation is not an issue.


What is the issue is that this entire section of the anime is filler. More than simple filler it has no foundation in the manga whatsoever. In the manga, after Goku speaks to the others through King Kai after Cell's death at the hands of Gohan, Goku is not heard from again until Gohan speaks to Vegeta about entering the Budokai, which is 7 years later. These episodes are not included in Dragonball Kai and the "4 Galaxies" claim is entirely unsupported and is also contradicted by Dragonball Super, which shows a great many galaxies.

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This section of the Dragonball Super anime is directly represented in the DBS Manga also [Chapter 13] and so is confirmed as being in Akira Toriyama's original storyboard.

Other Sourses

In the last pages of Chapter 3 of the Toriyama manga 'Jiya' (which is part of the Galactic Patrol series, along with 'Jaco The Galactic Patrolman' and Dragon Ball −(Minus): The Departure of the Fated Child, all of which is canon to Dragonball) Jiya the Galactic Patrolman says that the Milky Way Galaxy has around 200 million stars in it.

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The theory that the Dragonball World is 1 million km in radius is entirely wrong. And when you consider that the Dragonball Universe has the Earth, the Moon, the Sun, Jupiter and all are in the Milky Way, which is stated to contain around 200 million stars, it is obvious that the DB Universe is the same as our very own.

Add to those very deliberate references to the real universe, the fact that the only mention of the '4 Galaxies' theory in all of Dragonball is in a filler arc created by Toei as something to show because the manga had not started the Great Saiyaman Saga yet, and you understand that the Dragonball Universe is our Universe, just long, long before now.

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Why Maths in Comics Counts

The world we live in inspires art and dream. Not one of us see the world the same as anyone else, we all have our own unique point of view and that view influences how we interpret our world. The differences depend on mood, noise, smell, the ambient light and countless other details that mean different things to different people on different days. It's incredibly subjective and individual to the individual.

But outside of whether a sound can make you feel cold or a shade of blue make a room feel warm, the world is distinctly measurable. It has size and movement, energy and rigidity, viscosity and entropy. This distinctly measurable and calculable part of our world is decidedly objective, and we describe the world around us and its workings as a wide and varied set of rules colloquially known as 'the Laws of Physics'.


The beholders eye will find beauty in the dance of a childs balloon in the breeze, but the known values of the elements of the balloons nature and that of the fluid that surrounds it can be used to predict its path through the air. This relationship between art and science, though, is intertwined.

We instinctively know when something is wrong or false. Every time you see a computer generated character in a movie that hasn't been animated with performance capture, you know its not real. The motion is entirely wrong. In Captain America Civil War when T'Challa was the Black Panther you knew it was CGI, even though the materials of the costume looked real. The same goes for Spider-Man, Wonder Woman when she moved strangely in the bank in Justice League, Agamemnon's soldiers in Troy or even pets in ads, our brains know when something is not right and evidence from various studies suggest there is a reason for that.

The Maths of the Mind

Its almost universally known that our brains are incredibly complex. So complex in fact that it's communication systems have recently been discovered to work in between 7th and 11th virtual dimensional forms. Humans and animals alike are capable of automatically understanding the optimum point to enter a pool of water to get to a destination in the lowest possible time - something that requires a lot of complex mathematics to prove on paper. Even young children can understand the trajectory of a ball through the air and predict its destination.

The evidence is in abundance and it is clear, our brains often instinctively understand what has taken millennia to formulate into an equation; our brains understand the physics of the world around us, even if our minds have to be taught the code.

The Art

So when artists translate the world onto paper, they instinctively illustrate the world they know, the one encoded into their brains. Likewise, when the viewer/reader sees the animation or illustration, there is an instinctive plausibility attributed to the image(s) they see. It's why artists use perspective in their drawings, the cause and effect of extreme motions and accelerations, why they study the movement and postures of the body during various types of motion. It's meant to feel real, feel plausible, add the mundane as an anchor so the fantastic is grounded in reality.

The artists mind works unknowingly in the Laws of Physics, and the Laws of Physics are written in Maths.

The Limitation

It doesn't apply everywhere, however, the fantastic and incredible that make us want to read a comic or manga, or watch a cartoon, movie or anime are often beyond the real or calculable.

The beams of life-force energy, teleportation, the power to crush a black hole, the ability to transmute elements, bring the dead to life, or running faster than time. They are unquantifiable, often nonsensical, occasionally jump the shark, but are definitely what we are fans for - they are the feats that speak to our imagination rather than our sense of reality, and the world of physics does not belong there.

The Point

But Physics and Maths do have a place, within the limitations of reality. It might be fantastic that a character could jump to the edge of space, float for a time and then return to Earth, but the speed of the character can be estimated because every celestial body has an escape velocity. It may be incredible that a character could throw a stone pillar 1,300km, but ballistics can calculate the necessary initial velocity for that to happen. It may also be unimaginable to punch a chunk out of a micro-planet, but the force required to do so is entirely possible to discern.

Maths and calculating the feats of our favourite characters in fiction using the Laws of Physics can, and should be done within the limitations of those laws, because despite the people who exclaim that the writers and illustrators did not use the laws of physics to create these feats, the fact of the matter is, they kinda did - they just didn't know it.