Expect the young Spidey to be the point of contention for pro/anti-reg sides. He's young and therefore "innocent" in most people's eyes but also has a strong negative voice in Jameson. He operates alone and has personal issues that humanize him as you learn more. He will be the martyr who symbolizes and also resolves the conflict.
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Telepathy has the most outright utility if it's at planetary level. I could make myself wealthy, push socoety in the direction I wanted, and do so undistirbed. I can chill out at my desk and eliminate extremism. Erasing traumatic memories from victims, totally worth it. It will ne a nice comfy life where I can eliminate the ills of the world with ease.
I'm at work right now so I can't just send you the lovely little tutorials I wrote, but you can google all of them. Rebootingsimply means shitting down your pc and turning it back on. Restart does both in order. If you want a simple and free tool to clean up your pc then ccleaner is a good one. Just make sure to back up the registry when cleaning it.
I'll try to hop on later and give more detailed instructions.
@nobledemon said:
@namasthetu said:
@nobledemon said:
@namasthetu said:
Who are you asking? Because if you're not asking a guy like that out then yes. If you're asking the Universe/God/Fate/Whatever then you don't deserve it. If you want someone like that then you have to find someone like that who wants someone like you. If they don't exist then you have to change either yourself or your expectations. Everything else is pointless fantasy that gets you nowhere.
That's cold.
It was not meant to be cold. It was meant to be honest advice to help you get what you want. While sometimes things do drop in people's laps, it is often either coincidence, or the side-effect of them having subconsciously sought the right environment to get what they want. If you hang around bars you will get people who hang around bars. If you seek a specific kind of person, figure out where you are likely to find them and go for it. Be aware that your initial forays may leave you realizing that you are in some way inadequate. Don't take it as a slap in the face, accept it as a challenge. Honestly evaluate yourself and work on things that make you a more attractive mate for the type of person you want, so long as it doesn't turn you into something you don't want to be. If you cannot reconcile these issues then you will have to look at altering your expectations.
It takes time and effort to find the right person, and they may surprise you when you find them. I had no idea I would end up with a mother of three who bowhunts and can butcher animals. I really also never thought I would end up with three large Great Danes as part of the deal. I really never counted on having to go through a long custody battle and cancer with her. She has some traits i could really live without, and some I never really knew I needed.
I just go owned.
This thread was meant to be just for fun but I actually got some good advice. Thank ye, sir!
You can thank my father for most of that.
@nobledemon said:
@namasthetu said:
Who are you asking? Because if you're not asking a guy like that out then yes. If you're asking the Universe/God/Fate/Whatever then you don't deserve it. If you want someone like that then you have to find someone like that who wants someone like you. If they don't exist then you have to change either yourself or your expectations. Everything else is pointless fantasy that gets you nowhere.
That's cold.
It was not meant to be cold. It was meant to be honest advice to help you get what you want. While sometimes things do drop in people's laps, it is often either coincidence, or the side-effect of them having subconsciously sought the right environment to get what they want. If you hang around bars you will get people who hang around bars. If you seek a specific kind of person, figure out where you are likely to find them and go for it. Be aware that your initial forays may leave you realizing that you are in some way inadequate. Don't take it as a slap in the face, accept it as a challenge. Honestly evaluate yourself and work on things that make you a more attractive mate for the type of person you want, so long as it doesn't turn you into something you don't want to be. If you cannot reconcile these issues then you will have to look at altering your expectations.
It takes time and effort to find the right person, and they may surprise you when you find them. I had no idea I would end up with a mother of three who bowhunts and can butcher animals. I really also never thought I would end up with three large Great Danes as part of the deal. I really never counted on having to go through a long custody battle and cancer with her. She has some traits i could really live without, and some I never really knew I needed.
@outside_85 said:
@feartheliving said:
Sure in the comics that's the case but if he was able to actually pick it up in the movie he would have, he made it move but nothing else. I took it has that he was far more worthy then most anyone who tried to pick up the hammer but wasn't quite there yet or the opportune moment for him to actually need to use the hammer wasn't there so he wasn't able to pick it up.
That being said it kind of was like that early in the comics to.
I am only talking about the movies. And I am certain Steve could feel it moving before we saw it and he relented in time simply because he didn't want to be picked out as special (any more than he already is ofc), which is a big part of his mentality.
Cap clearly makes a second attempt to lift the hammer after its slight movement, straining his whole body against it. This is much more likely a nod to his comic worthiness, and also related to his more subtle issues relating to the Scarlet Witch's illusions and his general disillusionment since coming out of the ice.
@tdk_1997 said:
@namasthetu: It maybe seemed like a rehash battle sequence for some but what I saw was finally a final battle that I could simply enjoy. It may have been done in other movies as well, I know it for sure but in no other movie I have seen it done properly. That's why I liked this so much, it had the vibe I wanted it to have and continued for the perfect amount of time.
Well as long as you liked it, it wasn't a total waste :P
Who are you asking? Because if you're not asking a guy like that out then yes. If you're asking the Universe/God/Fate/Whatever then you don't deserve it. If you want someone like that then you have to find someone like that who wants someone like you. If they don't exist then you have to change either yourself or your expectations. Everything else is pointless fantasy that gets you nowhere.
@tdk_1997 said:
@veshark I can totally see where you are coming from, man. We people, not only comic book fans are designed this way that whenever something different happens, something that we not expect and anticipate we start complaining about it. But with time two things eventually happen, we both forget and learn to live with it. It's a normal thing in our big community and that is probably why it's so exciting to be a comic book fan or a fan of something as a whole. If we weren't able to complain and argue with other fans over some decisions or movies, or comic books, or anything of that kind, being a comic book fan wouldn't be as fun.
It's a great thing living in this era of comic books and comic book movies as well. A few years ago there weren't as many and most of them were also not that well crafted while now whole universes are being built in front of our eyes. We should be grateful as you said for the coming DC movies and even for the Marvel ones even though I am not as excited for them as I am for the DC ones. It's a great era we are living in.
@namasthetu said:
@tdk_1997 said:
@namasthetu said:
@tdk_1997 said:
@shazam117 said:
@tdk_1997: That's EXACTLY how I felt about that scene. It was refreshing for me to see Superman taken to that level. For years we've seen the "everything is happy and perfect" ending for the character on film, and I think that scene was refreshing in the sense that it put Superman in a position where he had to make a very difficult choice (perhaps he wasn't ready for) for the greater good and how will that define him going forward....SOOOO much more interesting that than him saving everyone and having the usually vanilla ending we seen for the character for 30+ years on film now. That was my favorite part of MOS because it was such powerful and unexpected moment.
Indeed it was. When Superman grabbed Zod's head and started screaming and then we saw and heard the snap and I literally got goosebumps. The tension and the build up for this moment was amazing.
The long-ass battle sequence pretty much made me snooze, but that moment was fantastic and the only real redeeming moment to me in a lackluster second half of the movie.
Ahhh, that;s yet another thing which I cannot understand why people don't like it - the final battle. Many have problems with it and I can't see why. I thought it was an amazing battle, one of the best in any live action comic book movie ever.
What was so amazing about it? It was like every other comic book movie battle that goes on too long (Avengers, IM2, Thor 2, Cap 2). Most of it was just a "look how awesome Supes is" wank fest. I half expected to see an ad for the new church of our kryptonian lord and saviour after all the Jesus metaphors.
Uhhh, did we watch the same movie? The whole final battle was an amazing battle which was well crafted and did an amazing job showing us what it would be if two beings like Zod and SUperman fought in our world, it would be a total destruction and there will be a lot of consequences. And throughout the whole battle we saw Superman struggle because he was fighting a being that was on his level but with much more fighting experience. It wasn't a Superman wank fest and I doubt that Snyder even tried making any kind of wank fest for either character.
The whole final battle amounted to "HULK SMASH... oh wait that's copyrighted." First we smash Smallville for ten minutes, with one tactical moment involved. Then we smash the world engine for ten minutes of what seems like Superman tentacle porn. Then we smash Metropolis for twenty minutes with maybe three or four moments of anything but a slugfest. The only reprieves were the scenes with Lois on the plane where... FAORA SMASH!
I have yet to actually meet a person who enjoyed that scene other than you. Perhaps it was new to you, but I saw the same boring crap at the end of Thor 2 with only a slightly different twist eight months prior, and it had long since been old by then.
But at least it wasn't Cloud Atlas.
@brunnhilde said:
@namasthetu said:
I think you misunderstood what I was saying. They need to put the time and effort into making new characters of (insert anything diverse here). Taking an established character and tacking on a new "feature" comes off exactly like that. It becomes some innane alteration as stupid as many others made to characters over the years. Time and development establishing a new character indicates commitment and can result in a more subtle and thoughtful approach to whatever diversity they incorporate. Besides it is time for many comic characters to be retired and a natural replacement process is a much better approach than "hey Superman's a brother now" which makes him that glorified token character by default. We shouldn't be talking about "hey Wonder Woman's a she-male now!" We should be talking about new, well written characters that happen to be she-male, black, or whatever. My argument has nothing to do with being a white male because while you got my gender correct, you did not get my racial and ethnic background correct (yes some White, along with Romani, Native American, Black, and Latino). I have also been a life long feminist and am engaged to a bisexual woman and i'm pretty sure one of my adopted sons is gay. What this thread suggests is that characters who are "different" have to tag along on the established thunder of other characters. I insist they can soar on their own. Yeah I am selfish, I want characters that look like everyone I know, and are like the people I know, and i want them to succeed on their own merits like I know they can.
Those characters were created white in the first place on grounds of normative whiteness which even as we speak is well and going strong, if they rectify that now for the sake of diversity, I personally feel like that's a pretty good reason for doing it. In cases where race and sexual orientation are not structural aspects of the character's identity, I don't see why they can't just change them, at least temporarily. I feel like little mexican kids deserve a crack at Superman you know, not just a no-name token mexican character. And I don't see anything wrong with using the tremendous iconic power of a character like Superman as a springboard for diversity, I think it's clever. Having said that, I understand the nostalgia associated with it but it's for a good cause.
I think you are making a couple false assumptions.
1. That any character created has to be a token one rather than possessing a full range of character traits.
2. That turning an established character into "X" doesn't token-ize the change despite this being the reigning cultural perception that this is the case (as well as being academically verifiable).
3. People who are of "X" group can't identify with people who don't look like them. More specifically that making a character "X" means they will be positively perceived by other people of "X" subgroup. As a Native American and Roma male I can tell you that most characters made with said background are actually a little offensive to me because they either always have magical powers that outsiders associate with them (Forge, Mirage, Warpath, Doctor Doom), and/or they possess almost no cultural heritage (Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver). While I give Marvel cred for having such characters around, I roll my eyes at them frequently. This wouldn't be an issue btw if it were only some characters because let's face it, there's a lot of stereotypical stuff surrounding all cultures in comics. The X-Men examples are the most annoying because magic Native American powers have to be tacked onto mutant native Americans apparently to make them interesting. Doctor Doom bothers me less because he is about as non-Roma as you can get in so many ways and never really makes any attempt to represent. As a side note, much credit to Marvel for acknowledging that the Roma were systematically wiped out in the holocaust also.
The problem with making Superman Mexican is that he's not going to really be Mexican, that is the character will not have a Mexican experience without major rewrites to the history. It would be such a change that you may as well forget making him Superman, unless of course you're having Superman pass the mantle on. Indeed as a current resident of Kansas I would be very amused to watch all the xenophobes out here react to a character with a genuine Mexican heritage be handed the mantle. Indeed I would love to see Clark come home and meet the right person to assume such a mantle. Such a change would have to be gradual and take place over years to be appropriate though to do both the character that exists and the new character justice. I would relish Superman's immigrant origins passed on in such a way and I do find it appropriate.
So full circle to transgendered Wonder Woman. Personally I think that taking away a female character to make a transgendered one isn't really increasing diversity, especially THE iconic female character. It's also insulting in many ways because many physically powerful women spend so much time enduring insults as to their actual gender. It really makes no sense also without completely altering her origin, which is more integral to her as a character than most. If they are going to transgender someone I'd rather see it happen to Green Lantern whose personal life needs a kick in the pants anyway. I would want them to do it right and take us through the transformation, address the personal issues and such. He may actually be a great one to do it with because we could get multiple voices of how other Lanterns perceive it as a sounding board for different cultural conventions.
Ultimately when it comes to DC in particular I wish they would actually reinvent their universe instead of constantly remaking it the same way. For a franchise that reboots itself so often, they don't seem to make much real change in approach or take advantage of the opportunity. I know it would piss a lot of people off but frankly i would kill off the entire Justice League except Wonder Woman and maybe one or two others, leaving them to rebuild. The original characters would live on in memory and their legacy could really mean something in universe. Maybe they don't need to die either, Batman could certainly live on with permanent disability and while it's been briefly done before, it would be more interesting to see the long term change. Anyway just my musings. I think we want the same thing, I just think we have very different visions of how to get there.
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