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#1 Edited by MyGod000 (1093 posts) - - Show Bio
@greysentinel365 said:

@formally_darth: Yeah it's pretty obvious. Vader only holds a "slight" edge on ESB Luke, a rookie with only a few days training and is inferior to ANH Kenobi. Even Pablo Hidalgo has said that RotJ Luke is "not very powerful of a Jedi" despite him being equal to Vader.

Then you have George stating that Vader is inferior to all the "golden age" Jedi. Of which even even TPM Kenobi is one of the best and that even as of ESB he's lost a lot of power compared to his RotS self. Then Pablo saying he's lost a lot of power compared to his AotC self.

like another Member just said...you can't scale from Multiple difference authors with just statements.

If he was so weak like you are claiming he is, how was he able to kill so Many Jedi? Sidious Even called Vader the Best Jedi Killer Ever. how is he weaker than TPM Obi-wan when he one-shotted TPM Maul? you don't make any type of sense in here.

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LMFAO...so this is your idea of trying to get justice from the other thread?

Pablo has no Pull-in Legends continuity.

Vader Defeated TPM Maul clone by one-shotting him himself and stabbing Maul in the process.

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Stated that Vader was "Equally formidable" to Palpatine.

Vader wins because he is equally formidable as Palpatine is.

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#3 Posted by MyGod000 (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@mygod000: "What does Sidious Being distracted have to do with anything..."

It means Sidious' guard was down, you fucking moron. I'm honestly done with you after this.

"in the New Canon Sidious stated to Vader that he will always be Ready and Prepared for Vader."

This quote doesn't prove anything. Sidious was still caught off guard, that is literally what happened. I can't even believe you're arguing this now.

"Him Killing Sidious Doesn't prove that He was Stronger than Sidious, but it proves he can kill him regardless of what you are saying. Which was Why Vader was more powerful than Maul by a shit ton."

Him killing Vader just proves he could cheap shot him. That is literally it.

"LMFAO....you are Calling Me a Troll yet you can't even keep a consistent Argument and contradicted yourself, now you are mad. Okay, whatever you say. How is he not a Rival? when He Tank full power Force Lighting from Sidious long enough to kill him? How does that Not prove he is rival to Sidious? It doesn't matter that he was Distracted the fact is he still Manged to Hit Vader with his Force Lighting and Vader Tanked it. Maul Couldn't even handle Force Lighting From Sidious."

I never called you a troll, nor am I making inconsistent arguments. If anything, you are, as you keep changing your arguments every time I disprove them. Vader is not Sidious' rival. Vader did not tank Sidious' Lightning, it fucking killed him. He took it long enough to kill Sidious (which was only a few seconds) because Sidious was also electrocuting himself. Even if Vader tanked Sidious (which--to be clear--he didn't), it does nothing to prove he's Sidious' rival. It doesn't matter that Sidious' guard was down and therefore Vader took a cheap shot? So I guess any cheap shot that's ever happened is perfectly fine scaling, then. Fuck off. Maul blocked Sidious' Force Lightning in the Extended Fight, and when Maul was hit by it, he had already been battered to shit beforehand when Sidious slammed him around, so it isn't a fair showing. Moreover, Maul survived and remained conscious while taking Sidious' Lighting (despite previously being battered) for a while.

We're done here. I don't have time for people like you.

It means Vader can kill Sidious and Sidious can kill Vader. However, it doesn't prove that Vader is above Sidious it just proves that he can kill him.

Your Logic doesn't make sense when Sidious himself stated he can see the events that are going to happen, and that he can sense everything inside Vader Mind. So regardless of how you try and spin it Vader Killed Sidious plain and Simple. the Feat just can't be used to prove Vader is stronger than Sidious.

It does prove that Vader can kill Sidious by himself. While Maul can't, and needs Savage Opress to help and where he still couldn't defeat Sidious.

Him killing Vader just proves he could cheap shot him. That is literally it.

No, it proves he can Kill Vader with force Lighting.

I never called you a troll, nor am I making inconsistent arguments. If anything, you are, as you keep changing your arguments every time I disprove them. Vader is not Sidious' rival. Vader did not tank Sidious' Lightning, it fucking killed him. He took it long enough to kill Sidious (which was only a few seconds) because Sidious was also electrocuting himself. Even if Vader tanked Sidious (which--to be clear--he didn't), it does nothing to prove he's Sidious' rival. It doesn't matter that Sidious' guard was down and therefore Vader took a cheap shot? So I guess any cheap shot that's ever happened is perfectly fine scaling, then. Fuck off. Maul blocked Sidious' Force Lightning in the Extended Fight, and when Maul was hit by it, he had already been battered to shit beforehand when Sidious slammed him around, so it isn't a fair showing. Moreover, Maul survived and remained conscious while taking Sidious' Lighting (despite previously being battered) for a while.

We're done here. I don't have time for people like you.

you actually were. Otherwise why even respond to the member who was calling me one in the first place. anyways that is off Topic, on Topic Maul got owned by Force Lighting.

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If you want to watch Sidious Destroy these two Casually you can, but Sidious At 4:23 disarms Maul than Process to Wreck him with the force and then Force Lighting owned him.

Aww, the poor Baby Maul was hurt?

Suck it up, my dude. Vader had it much worse and still tanked Sidious Force lighting.

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Vader Right after ROTS when he just got in his suit Force Pushed Sidious casually.

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After he lowers his Gaurd down and Lets Sidious goes then Sidious immediately Hits him with full power Force lightning to teach him a lesson.

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This again was right after he lost to Obi-wan.

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Sidious then Tells Vader if he ever does that again that he will kill him.

So like I said Vader already knows how powerful Sidious is and knows what he is can do. Yet he still confronts Sidious.

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after hearing it might Be Palpatine Vader get Makes a new Light Saber to get ready to confront Sidious about it.

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Vader by this time had not Surpassed Anakin yet at all. yet His durability is massively above Maul, and he can casually force Push Sidious across the Room. as well as Tank Sidious force Lighting just after Being Nearly killed by Obi-wan and Burned alive.

Vader is just far too powerful for Maul to handle.

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@mygod000:

Sasuke was not training, it stated he was investigating the Ootsutsuki. saying anything than more than without proof that he actually been training is headcanon.

Again, it's in character for him to train, and we even see he got stronger so much that he caught up to naruto. He's not getting that strong by just existing he has to train for it. One time(ill try to see if i can find the statement for you) IIRC sasuke states he's been training all this time and mastering jutsu with 1 hand.

LMFAO, how are they Fodder when they basically almost killed Kinishiki?

Because kinshiki is fodder to momoshiki. Also they needed help for that

FYI Kinishiki was able to knock out Sasuke in the novel, to the point his Daughter came in to help him and almost got killed.

Weakened sasuke. Also when did this happen?

No, Madara light Fang is far beyond Sasuke's Sword. Light Fang is stated it can cut through all things in the Naruto verse. Sasuke's sword can't. I'm pretty sure I mentioned Momoshiki absorbing Chakra from beyond his Dimension, which doesn't mean anything because Kaguya can do the same thing. as a Matter of fact, Madara could do the same thing, you just need to be in the core dimension to do it. No, Momoshiki is weaker than Kaguya, Momoshiki only had 1 Dimension while Kaguya has 6.

Sasuke's sword has far greater feats.

Kaguya and madara absorbing chakra from dimensions is fodder when madara's is only like town level maybe bigger and kaguya's is only star level which is fodder to a universe.

Kaguya having 6 star level dimensions is fodder to momoshiki having multiple universal ones.

At the end of the Day, A Tailed Beast Bomb only several time stronger than 8 tails Knocked out a Full power naruto. Naruto who was half powered defeated Momoshiki, that alone proves he is weaker than Madara and Kaguya.

Again, gotta quantify that or this point is useless.

There is no one in Naruto so far that has more Chakra Than Kaguya. Hagoromo, Hamura, Madara, Toneri, Naruto, Sasuke, all the Tailed Beast, The people on Earth&Moon all there Chakra was from Kaguya sharing Her chakra with Her Two Kids. Without Kaguya, no one in the earth or on the Moon would have chakra so first get that understood. Momoshiki was getting destroyed by Small Remnants of Kaguya's power, Not even all of Kaguya's power was needed to Kill Momoshiki just Naruto and Sasuke were enough.

Again, momoshiki never got destroyed by anything, the chakra just tanked one casual blow, which proves nothing. Also naruto and sasuke>kaguya. Already debunked the "chakra=power" thing.

To reiterate again, Kinishiki is not fodder To Momoshiki, after Reading the Novel it clear that Kinishiki was physically stronger than Momoshiki. with Physical strength alone Kinishiki knocked out Sasuke. Momoshiki just has Better Hax than Kinishiki.

Wow, he ko'd a weakened sasuke.

Them being fodder means nothing when they busted Momoshiki face the Fact that Momoshiki was stated to be near death when Fighting the Kages proves my point.

Novel states he was fighting 4 people, so it was the kages, naruto and sasuke.

Gaara, Darui, Naruto, and Sasuke were Beating Momoshiki within an inch of his life and Momoshiki was scared "shitless" to the point Kinishiki broke out of the bindings and started charging towards Momoshiki to save him.

Naruto and sasuke would stomp kaguya and madara too so what's your point?

it was not just Naruto and Sasuke So Deal with it, Momoshiki is pretty fodder and is the first to fall to bleach team with Toenri follow him soon after. only Kaguya, Madara, and Hagoromo Can solo this fight.

Again, bleach team is only like island level at best. While momoshiki has universal feats and out stats everyone on the naruto team by far.

Again, it's in character for him to train, and we even see he got stronger so much that he caught up to naruto. He's not getting that strong by just existing he has to train for it. One time(ill try to see if i can find the statement for you) IIRC sasuke states he's been training all this time and mastering jutsu with 1 hand.

He did Catch up to Naruto that is True. However, My point is he didn't surpass The previous Villains.

Naruto has Gotten Weaker as I've been showing you, he was knocked out by an attack that was only Several Times Stronger than the 8 tails. Look up what "Several" means.

Dictionarysev·er·al/ˈsev(ə)rəl/Learn to pronouncedeterminer & pronoun

  1. more than two but not many."the author of several books"
    synonyms:some, a number of, a few, not very many, a handful of, a small group of, various, a variety of, assorted, sundry, diverse; literarydivers"several people arrived early"

adjective

  1. separate or respective."the two levels of government sort out their several responsibilities"
    synonyms:respective, individual, own, particular, specific; More

Several means More than Two, but not Many, we can determine that Attack was weaker than Juubi blast. since 2-4x the power 8 tails power isn't even large country level.

Because kinshiki is fodder to momoshiki. Also they needed help for that

he isn't since he can knock out Sasuke.

Weakened sasuke. Also when did this happen?

Look up the term "Headcanon"

headcanon. Noun. (uncountable) (fandom slang) Elements and interpretations of a fictional universe accepted by an individual fan, but not found within or supported by the official canon.

Headcanon dictionary definition | headcanon defined

Kinishiki knocked out Sasuke during the Chunin Exam. Sasuke was not Weaken, and your headcanon is not even supported by the official Canon. The Chunin exam is an event that Lasts almost 2-3months. Sasuke was able to Master Chidori during the semi-finals of Chunin Exam and Naruto was able to learn a new Ninjutsu in that time. this was 3 months after He fought Momoshiki and Kinishiki so how is he Weakened 3months after there Fight. Nothing was stated in the Official Canon that he was weakened. Kinishiki just knocked Sasuke out plain and simple, Momoshiki couldn't even do that without eating pills.

Sasuke's sword has far greater feats.

Kaguya and madara absorbing chakra from dimensions is fodder when madara's is only like town level maybe bigger and kaguya's is only star level which is fodder to a universe.

Kaguya having 6 star level dimensions is fodder to momoshiki having multiple universal ones.

No, he isn't Madara is above Planet level easily. Momoshiki isn't universal when Kages are able to damage him to a bloody paste and nearly kill him when they are not even country level or even island level for that matter. Darui was a new Kage that just got his position and was able to beat Momoshiki in combat.

No, Sword Feats Are Well below Madara's Light Fang which is stated to be able to cut throw all things in the Naruto verse.

Again, gotta quantify that or this point is useless.

Just did, according to Google, it not very much maybe 4 or more but we know it not 10 x so it's fodder. which proves Naruto isn't really that power after the War since he was knocked out by this attack while at full power.

Again, momoshiki never got destroyed by anything, the chakra just tanked one casual blow, which proves nothing. Also naruto and sasuke>kaguya. Already debunked the "chakra=power" thing.

Yes, Momoshiki did get destroyed. Nearly getting killed says he got destroyed, Darui and Gaara taking turns Beating the crap out of Momoshiki that he was facing death proves that he got destroyed. you never debunked anything, that is only your headcanon. Chakra=More power.

the fact that they could kill Momoshiki by Beating him up proves he weaker than Kaguya who they had to seal to win against.

Wow, he ko'd a weakened sasuke.

That is for you to prove. Show me where it says Sasuke during the Boruto Chunin Exam was weakened.

Novel states he was fighting 4 people, so it was the kages, naruto and sasuke.

I know and before that Gaara and Darui was able to Fight Momoshiki and Make him struggle without the aid of Sasuke or Naruto proving that Momoshiki isn't all that powerful.

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Gaara Sand Stops Momoshiki blade, Momoshiki tries to run from Both Gaara and Darui.

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Momoshiki was on Defense against Both Gaara and Darui. clearly showing he was being overpowered and overwhelmed.

Naruto and sasuke would stomp kaguya and madara too so what's your point?

No, they can't. the feats here prove they are well below Madara and Kaguya.

  • Naruto while at his Full powers get knocked out by an attack that is only country level.
  • Sasuke got knocked out by Kinishiki who Kurotsuchi and Choujuurou basically almost killed.
  • Momoshiki getting owned by Gaara and Darui, and was on Defense the whole duel.
  • Momoshiki facing death due to being Beat to an inch of his life by Gaara, Darui, Naruto, and Sasuke

I see nothing that points to them being stronger than Kaguya who can bust Stars and Madara who can bust Planets easily.

Again, bleach team is only like island level at best. While momoshiki has universal feats and out stats everyone on the naruto team by far.

Momoshiki isn't universal. No, the Bleach team isn't island level at best WTF? They are easily Country-level which is the same level as Momoshiki. his consistent feats are Country level, Not only that Momoshiki is Glass cannon because the Kages nearly killed him.

Kaguya, Madara, and Hagoromo can solo and are the strongest on the naruto team. Momoshiki and Toneri are the weakest.

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#5 Edited by MyGod000 (1093 posts) - - Show Bio
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@mygod000: This is a new chain, get with the times. Look it up, Muur stomps Vader. DE Sidious is the most powerful, that’s common sense. Neither Vader, nor previous versions of Sidious have anything on the Ziost drain. Had you any logic, you’d realize that KF Vader is a peer of Sidious, and all later versions are at most 80% of him, but the gap is unquantifiable, meaning that it only proves Vader is decisively inferior to Sidious. Overall, ROTS Sidious >> Dooku >> ROTS Kenobi > Ben >= ANH Vader < ROTJ Vader.

Valkorion >> Revan > KOTOR Revan >> SF Revan > SF Malak >>> Malak > Kun > BFC Luke > JA Luke >> DE Luke >> ROTJ Luke = ROTJ Vader

Also, Valkorion >> Revan > KOTOR Revan >> SF Revan > SF Malak >>> Malak > Kun > Nadd > Ragnos > Pall > Muur >> Vader...

Have fun proving me wrong!

No, he is stronger than 80% which came from Old Canon that came from Lucas which he no longer has Authority over Star wars. Vader is stronger than Dooku in canon by a shit ton.

why are you still talking about Legends? it's non-canon. and has nothing to do with this debate, Either stay on topic with the debate or stop replying to me because you are derailing the thread with nonsense.

Vader solo past Sith of ancient times.

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#6 Posted by MyGod000 (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

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@mygod000: I don't understand why you're so adamant about this. Vader is better than Maul, I agree, but the gap isn't large--at all.

It's a Stomp, Because of Vader Rivals Sidious. If I recall Vader Killed Sidious anyway.

Obi-wan casually Killed Maul, then lost to Vader. No matter how you spin it, Maul was losing to Obi-wan in that duel or he was just going to be killed off by Vader.

Dooku is more powerful than Maul, the Only thing Maul has over Dooku is Durability, acrobatics, and Brute strength. Brute Strength means nothing against Vader...who can rip off steel doors while not even using the Force, Durability means nothing to Vader who can tank Light saber shots and keep ongoing. the only thing Maul has over Vader is acrobatics which is going to prove useless against him since he has dueled and bested people on his level easily.

Dooku has More force power. Vader is more powerful than Dooku by a lot because he already killed Him while as Anakin who chronology much weaker than Vader in the new Canon.

what about this are you unable to grasp? Maul was powerful for a period in time, but he has been long surpassed. Dooku would beat Maul Vader is overkill because he is just too strong and powerful.

Vader solo with mid diff.

Vader doesn't rival Sidious in Canon. Are you actually illiterate? Vader killed a distracted Sidious, which isn't legitimate.

Obi-Wan never "casually" did anything to Maul. If you're referring to their duel in Rebels, allow me to explain all of the circumstances to you:

Both Kenobi and Maul were past their primes.

Maul was put of practice.

Maul was physically and mentally hindered due to wandering Tatooine for an unknown period of time.

Maul post TPM is always mentally hindered when facing Kenobi due to his lust for revenge.

The two saw the fight play out in their heads, so it was actually longer than what we saw.

Kenobi deceived Maul with Qui-Gon's stance.

Kenobi was possibly amped due to his need to protect Luke.

PIS.

Kenobi knew how to counter Maul's move due to seeing him use it on someone beforehand.

All of these show how unfairly played the fight was in Kenobi's favor. Even so, it wasn't a casual victory, the fight played out longer in their heads.

Again you claim Dooku is more powerful than Maul, but refuse to elaborate. Maul is physically superior to Dooku. In fact, Maul stomps Dooku in the physical department, which gives him a major edge in an altercation with Dooku or even just being compared on paper. Maul has better dueling feats in Canon than Dooku, who actually lost to Quinlan Vos: Maul stomped Savage Opress within eight seconds, held his own/fought evenly with Mace Windu and Aayla Secura, speed blitzed four MagnaGuards, outmatched Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi as of TPM, being well-matched with Vader, dueled relatively evenly with Sidious for thirty seconds, and toyed with three Inquisitors. In regards to the Force, Maul used the Force to survive being bisected, falling down a reactor shaft, being dumped onto Lotho Minor, and surviving Lotho Minor for twelve years. He literally used the Force to create functioning legs, and held them together for over a decade. This is a Vader level feat, according to Filoni. Maul has pulled an Eta Class shuttle off a cliff under negative circumstances, which is just insane. Outside of that, Maul and Dooku have been shown to break Kenobi's Force Wall consistently. However, Sidious could casually choke Dooku (effectively one-shotting him) from across the Galaxy via Hologram, but not Maul as of Son of Dathomir. Even when face-to-face with Maul at the end of Son of Dathomir, Sidious still can't one-shot Maul, even though Talzin hadn't fully possessed Dooku. Maul even used the Force to disarm and pin Sidious to a wall in their extended fight. According to Hidalgo, if extended scenes don't contradict the story, they're Canon. That extended fight didn't contradict anything, and was just replaced with a scene of Kenobi escaping Mandalore. It is even officially labeled as the "Extended Fight." Vader himself performed the same thing in the Vader comics.

What does Sidious Being distracted have to do with anything...when in the New Canon Sidious stated to Vader that he will always be Ready and Prepared for Vader.

Him Killing Sidious Doesn't prove that He was Stronger than Sidious, but it proves he can kill him regardless of what you are saying. Which was Why Vader was more powerful than Maul by a shit ton.

LMFAO....you are Calling Me a Troll yet you can't even keep a consistent Argument and contradicted yourself, now you are mad. Okay, whatever you say. How is he not a Rival? when He Tank full power Force Lighting from Sidious long enough to kill him? How does that Not prove he is rival to Sidious? It doesn't matter that he was Distracted the fact is he still Manged to Hit Vader with his Force Lighting and Vader Tanked it. Maul Couldn't even handle Force Lighting From Sidious.

Vader>>>>Maul. Because Vader can Tank Sidious full power Force Lighting which Wrecked and one-shotted Maul.

maybe you didn't understand the memo...Because able to Tank someone full power put you on their level or at rivals make you a rival to them.

GG you lost the debate.

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#7 Posted by MyGod000 (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@mygod000:

I would disagree about acrobatics and strength. Dooku as a Jedi was the most agile lightsaber instructor and swordmaster at the Coruscant Jedi Temple, and even in his older years he displayed some impressive gymnastics. As far as strength does, he was matching ROTS Anakin+Obi-Wan in a bladelock despite using only one arm, and in AOTC while exhausted he was matching Yoda's strength in a bladelock. By comparison, TCW Sidious was pretty casually overwhelming the combined strength of Savage+Maul with one arm each.

Maul should be physically superior to Dooku only in stamina and durability.

Okay. I can agree with that. yes, Sidious Did overwhelm Savage+Maul.

Anakin in ROTS should be stronger than Maul at this point since his powers had Double since he last Fought Dooku, and Obi-wan as well should be slightly superior to Maul since he beat him before, and continued growth in power while maul was stuck in a standstill until deep into the TCW when he got revived.

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#8 Posted by MyGod000 (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@mygod000: Vader confronting Sidious doesn't prove they're the same level. Maul confronted Sidious, who called Maul his rival. Neither placed Maul on Sidious' level. You keep going against Canon statements, which is futile. The opening of Son of Dathomir states that Sidious confronted Maul because he believed Maul was a threat to his designs. Canon. Sidious didn't replace Maul with Dooku, he replaced Maul with Anakin, holding Dooku as a placeholder for Vader, which was confirmed in the Darth Vader comics you seem to love so much. Why would Sidious replace Dooku with Maul if he was going to get Vader? Moreover, Maul didn't actually want to join Sidious. Maul told Sidious he did everything to join him again, but Sidious knew better: "How unfortunate, that you are attempting to deceive me." Even Maul himself says he has no interest in working for Sidious in the novelization Shadow Conspiracy. Maul wasn't afraid to confront Vader, you utter dunce. He merely acknowledged he couldn't win. In the original script, Maul and Vader fought, but they scrapped it so that they never confronted each other. Ahsoka didn't get beaten badly by Vader, she got defeated in a minute, I agree, but it was never "beaten badly". She still pushed him back and made him work for it. That list proves Vader is slightly more skilled than Sidious, yes. Sidious dominated the brothers with the Force, not lightsaber combat, so your point is mute. I would have expected you would have understood this by now.

you just contradicted yourself here. First, you said Maul Confronted Sidious, now you are saying Sidious Confronted Maul.

LMFAO...LIKE WTF. You can't even keep your story straight in here; Sidious Confronted Maul, you have no proof that Maul was going to Confront Sidious since he was trying to get back into his Master Faith again. Which Sidious told him he had been Replaced. <----which supports the fact that Dooku was more powerful than Maul.

Maul had no Choice but to fight Sidious when Sidious Confronted him otherwise He would have run because he wasn't strong enough. Even Sam Witwer who voices Maul in Rebels Said Maul was a Coward and was living his life as one since he lost everything.

Maul only engaged in battle because he had Back-up. <----- which supports what I'm saying that Maul wasn't powerful enough to kill Sidious on his own.

Vader actually did have a choice, he didn't need to confront Sidious...he did so Because he knew there were close enough in power to where he could kill him. otherwise Vader wouldn't have Confronted him in the first place if he didn't think he could get at least one or 2 Kill on Sidious.

the fact that you are ignoring this proves you have a bais towards Vader. you are being willfully ignorant because you don't want to accept the truth.

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@mygod000: I don't understand why you're so adamant about this. Vader is better than Maul, I agree, but the gap isn't large--at all.

It's a Stomp, Because of Vader Rivals Sidious. If I recall Vader Killed Sidious anyway.

Obi-wan casually Killed Maul, then lost to Vader. No matter how you spin it, Maul was losing to Obi-wan in that duel or he was just going to be killed off by Vader.

Dooku is more powerful than Maul, the Only thing Maul has over Dooku is Durability, acrobatics, and Brute strength. Brute Strength means nothing against Vader...who can rip off steel doors while not even using the Force, Durability means nothing to Vader who can tank Light saber shots and keep ongoing. the only thing Maul has over Vader is acrobatics which is going to prove useless against him since he has dueled and bested people on his level easily.

Dooku has More force power. Vader is more powerful than Dooku by a lot because he already killed Him while as Anakin who chronology much weaker than Vader in the new Canon.

what about this are you unable to grasp? Maul was powerful for a period in time, but he has been long surpassed. Dooku would beat Maul Vader is overkill because he is just too strong and powerful.

Vader solo with mid diff.

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#10 Posted by MyGod000 (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

@mygod000: You can’t merge legends and canon, Lord of the Sith and Rebels are canon, they have no impact on Legends. The notion of canon Vader &gt; Legends Vader is horseshit. So is ROTS Sidious in canon = ROTS Legends Sidious. KF Vader is a rival of the RoTS titans, not suited Vader. Again, you’ve yet to refute my scaling chain based on Muur. Your bullshit is astounding.

Like I said I already debunked you chain awhile ago in another thread. Go back to that thread and debate if you disagree.

The fact is Vader is Sidious rival that has not been changed at all. Those Ancient Sith in the past is pretty fodder Because Sidious is stated to be the strongest Sith ever in canon, in legends, in old Canon from George Lucas. it universal Fact.