@obsidian_raindrop1 said:You'd be surprised how hard that is to do.It isn't hard at all. Literally millions of women manage it every single day without issue. The sheer amount of female managers, teachers etc disproves this.It's not like you can't be assertive without being seen as a b****Of course you can. See above. I've provided more of an argument than just reiterating my beliefs, how about you do the same?however the problem is you can't really control how other people see you or really think about youThat's a problem? That's not a problem, that's what goes along with free will. The problem, apparently, is that you are too worried about what people think about you.Even the slightest bit of force can be meet with harsh backlash that most women don't want to deal with for a number of reasons.This sounds like your talking from having formed opinions on the internet and not real world experience. Like seriously, where did you get that from? That is absolute nonsense.I work for a very large corporation, and there are a huge number of female managers, directors, partners etc. There are plenty of women who are not discriminated against for doing their jobs competently. It's not hard to find other examples of women being assertive with no backlash.Not to say discrimination and sexism are not issues, but you are making mountains out of molehills, extrapolating far more than is reasonable without a shred of data to back it up.Even the slightest bit of force can be meet with harsh backlash that most women don't want to deal with for a number of reasons.I quoted this again to make a second point. "The slightest bit of force", so basically any resistance? So if someone disagrees or pushes back, women shouldn't have to deal with that, "for a number of reasons"? Sorry, but if you want to be in a position of authority part of that is proving yourself when challenged. Which is also something literally millions of women can do without issue..it isn't complicated.And all you wanted was some god damn mutual respect.Respect isn't earned by whining. Respect is earned by doing. The women who do, have respect. The women who whine about being considered a bitch instead of just taking charge don't.As for your example they are fictional characters. They are written and portrayed whatever way the writer wants them to be and are not accurate representations of life. .Oh please. Fictional characters written by humans who act exactly like a number of people do in the real world. Are you really saying there are no women with similar personalities to the fictional charaacters I named? Because that is ridiculous and I can find a number of real world examples if you need. Let's see. How about KimK vs JLaw?