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Hey gang, I am a sucker for reunions so I figure I would throw a log on this flame. This forum is near and dear to my heart as it was such a tremendous outlet for me to be a better artist.
I can only hope there is a resurgence for a new artist to come and give this board a shot and grow as I did.
So here is my entry, I figured everyone would go Red/Blue classic Superman..I decided to go with an evil version, Enjoy!
First let me say how I approach these things. We are in an amazing time to see all these great movies and shows being produced. I grew up during the 80's and 90's and could only DREAM of seeing my favorite characters on the big screen, and now I have 3 different Spider-man movies to enjoy
I also try to read reviews, and remind myself this are just different points of views and see what the common threads are among them, as some really have no idea what the source material is all about, some are really know the ins and outs of film making, and some just want to be entertained and feel like talking junk after it is done. Very rarely do we find reviews that have all of these traits in them. Then I watch the product myself, form my own opinions. Which leads me to now
EXPECTATIONS vs REALITY
That is the main issue with the majority of Iron Fist reviews. Either you know the characters in Yellow and Gold with the glowing fists, or you don't but are familiar with the other offerings from Netflix and know that IF is apart of a larger team and want to check him out. Both sides will be disappointed to some degree as what the were expecting never showed up. So your evaluation of GOOD/BAD get skewed as a result.
So for me, I fall on the side of knowing the character, I grew up on Power Man and Iron Fist as a kid, and I simply LOVED Iron Fist so much I experienced my first Fan Boy meltdown when they killed him way back in PM/IF 124 or 125(?). This offering had very little in the way of THAT character, this was a NETFLIX version in every sense. No double fists on fire, he wasn't a master yet, not even a easter egg of his suit to be found, and NO Dragon and no NINJA'S ( this part is the one of the 2 things I cannot forgive). Eventually I settled in a said to myself, this will not be MY Iron Fist and realized this was a origin season that was going for the long build, and NOT rushing things to get Danny to becoming MY Iron Fist. Not unlike DD season 1, but Matt was more along the guy I grew up reading way so then in this series.
And for those who know nothing of the books, then yes I can see why they would state their 'displeasure' for a white lead, and had zero problem with the actress portraying Collen Wing being Asian( my second unforgivable point). And this style of story is what you grown accustomed too based on the previous shows and how they progressed.
Overall this wasn't a bad offering at all. It had it's fair share of weaknesses, and descions I just did not agree with. But that didn't stop it from being a good quality show. I would rank it the 4th BEST of the shows, not the 1st BAD show they produced. And I admit the difference in terms is slight, But Iron Fist is a good show, not GREAT and the flaws just held it back from overcoming the other shows. Luke Cage is my first as it really spoke to me as I could relate to the show. From the characters, the City of Harlem and that SOUNDTRACK all of it hit a home run for me. Daredevil was second, but this was the show that remained true to the characters and the source material the most and as a result you had a very intense and gripping show. Jessica was 3rd and not because I thought the show was 'Better' I just enjoyed it more as Jessica was basically a blank slate and her comic counter part is paper thin as far backstory and history. And the element of Jessica over coming her fear was fun to watch. So which by default leaves IRON FIST again, 4th simply because the others were more enjoyable for me not due to the failures of the show.
Now, do not get me wrong, there were failures. I felt the Meachum's and the overall attention to RAND was a anchor to watch, it made sense for the story they were going for and needed to be told just not very enjoyable. The Rise and Fall of the Meachum as a whole was done well, and by the end you really came to appreciate the performance that Pelphrey gave ( WARD) and by the end I hope to see him return, but on the flip side Stroup's Joy seemed to get lost in the wash and were her character is going just seemed to not make much sense given what she had gone through. I also thought they missed out with trying to include other characters in the NETFLIX universe. Although I do love her as a actress and character Claire was over kill here, she works best as a quick in and out character that ties the shows together, she isn't meant to be the side kick, especially in a Kung Fu heavy show like this, and defiantly has zero business rocking mini Wolverine Claws fighting Ninja in China. I feel this part would have best been served by Misty Knight and given us a 'Daughters of The Dragon' pairing. Which brings me to my biggest gripe....COLLEEN WING, again this is purely EXPECTATION meets REALITY. I was expecting and looking forward to a badass Redheaded Bushido master, but what I got was a Asian double agent with anger issues instead. And compound that with her performance I found was dull and didn't overcome my disappointment that she was playing Colleen in the first place. So every sense she gave me nothing to enjoy with her performance.
Which brings me to Finn Jones as DANNY, yes DANNY as he never really became The Iron Fist. Danny spent the entire season looking for a family to belong too but all he got was lies and betrayal. ironically the few people who he could trust, he was to immature to realize the help he was receiving. ( Sorry Davos). But her my expectations of disappointment as I never really bought in that he could portray Iron Fist, but thankfully by the end, I was pleasantly surprised he was able to do the job, sadly the script did him zero favors. As Danny came across as a bit to naive and childish and simply had to many characters making him doubt his self and apologizing for his action. But that being said, I see the potential he could bring with some more humor and confidence added to his confidence.
The actors did the best they could with the script that was given them, Ward, Madam Gao and Bakuto being among the stand outs, J-Money was handled perfectly, and poor poor Kyle..he deserved better lol. But Clair's character just wasn't meant to have that much screen time and suffered, Wing was out of character and just found zero enjoyment when she was on screen, Joy was a missed opportunity but the biggest failure with characters was HAROLD. From the bumbling lackey to the growth to being a poor man's attempt of Lex Luthor. At the end of the day he was a poorly conceived villain and his name was HAROLD. He was merely a Businessman with a Gun that comes back from the dead. Not that he CAN"T die...He just comes back from the dead AFTER you killed him.
And issues like these hold the show from being good and not great. When you think about how Cottonmouth died so soon in Luke Cage, there really isn't any reason Harold should have been the final boss in Iron Fist. We never got to see Gao fight, Wing was the one to fight Bakuto, but Danny, The Iron Fist took on a dude with a gun. Not a expert fighter with a gun, like Deathstroke but he fought a random guy, with zero skill, all he had was 6 bullets and get out of death free card.
The Fight scenes were pretty cool, and had some good moments....if this was DAREDEVIL. Colleen had a moment when she described Danny's fighting style as being inspirational and unique, but to see the fight scenes, you just don't get that impression. Theses were not Kung Fu/Martial Art scenes, these scenes were FIGHTS, they lacked grace and style, and really just seemed like the DD team worked on this show, and the moments that did bring something of a Martial Art sequence was a cheap rip off of legend of the Drunken Master, and Lewis Tan was wasted trying to do his best Jackie Chan and not playing to his strengths.
And my final gripe was the fact that Dr STRANGE did a better IRON FIST story then Iron Fist did. With a character that is a Super hero kung Fu master the series was based to much in reality, or a as much reality as you can muster in a comic book universe. Aside from a yellow hand to depict the Iron Fist effect, we really got nothing in the way of the mysticism and fantasy that Iron Fist brings to the table...and that lack of NINJA'S made no sense to me. When Gao was a captive in the dojo, it was Military geared thugs that came to the recuse...not Hand Ninjas. Bakuto's compound, filled with would be Hand recruits and devotee's..they were kids in hoodies. Not a sea of Ninja's like a proper Kung Fu show would have.
And that brings me to the final thought. The show Iron Fist gave us was not bad at all. I was engaged and entertained the entire time I watched. I wasn't mentally drained as I was watching DD and JJ and i wasn't smiling from ear to ear like I was with Cage. However what I got here was a show I wanted to see how this story ended and as such very excited to see where these characters go next. Yes, my expectations of what I wanted to happen or thought should happen never did, and that diminished my overall enjoyment of the final product. I think going forward if we get writers focused more on K'un L'un and the wonders and fantasy of being The Iron Fist and less focus on the corporate boardroom of RAND we should see some better reviews and comments. I would also like to see a fight coordinator who could better blend the restraints of the realistic tone of a Netflix show and find ways to bring elements of Kung Fu movies to the show. If they can produce awesome scenes for INTO the BADLANDS certainly they can up their game a but for Iron Fist.
Overall I give this a solid B- or 3.5 out of 5 stars. The reviews overall are a bit harsh and even misguided at times, but the show that was delivered to us was solid and the direction the writers choose to go favored slow development and character building anchored by a strong cast. But the pitfalls and missteps prevented this from being the show it could have been.
Sorry for the long winded review and typos, but I really don't have to many folks to talk about this stuff with lol
Would love to hear what you guys think about what I wrote and the show, THANKS
Finally...I keep missing the challenges this year lol
And I do luv drawing me some Carol..there should be some awesome entries this I think ( hope...)
oh....I got something in mind, hope I can pull it of and get it in..