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@scouterv said:

@moogman13: I was always more G4, but I hated how they basically canabalized TTV.

See, I was a TechTV fan. I learned how to put together a PC from that channel and do so many things. G4 I was fine with, but would have preferred as it's own channel, but they just....gutted TTV and used them to increase their market share (which I fear is happening to this site).

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@jeanvaljean11: There haven't really been any content on the site since the buyout from Gamespot. Most of the reviews for comics are on that site now and even the youtube channel has changed names and is mostly games, pop culture and other things. Kind of see this site going the way of TechTV did years ago when G4 bought it (becoming G4TechTV for a bit), and acted like they were going to be integrated, but slowly dropped the TechTV stuff and made it all G4.

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@moogman13: True but it's gonna be on the backburner until at least after 2020, given that for now Marvel is still concentrating on the Thanos/comsic endgame storyline.

Plus DC have always had the more pronounced multiverse, what with Grant Morrison and Multiversity and 52 and all. If they take a more direct approach to the multiverse in the DCEU they could really make it unique. Imagine Batfleck meeting all the older Batman actors, Man of Steel meeting Smallville Superman, Ezra Flash meeting CW Flash, etc. Much more potential than with Marvel

Eh, you can't really equate what they do in the comics, with the movies. Perhaps it's a bit more prominent in the comics for DC, but Marvel have had a series specifically dealing with alternate worlds, Exiles, and they have series now about it too, Web Warriors, plus Secret Wars recently. DC always kind of limited their multiverse, then always streamlined it, then reverted back to it. I doubt DC will do what you suggested, since they seemed very hesitant to even acknowledge certain characters in their TV shows that are in the movies (they had trouble being allowed to use Superman for a while in Supergirl). Some have theorized that they may touch on things with Marvel due to the infinity gems/stones, or if they ever work out a deal with Fox (and use the multiverse as a way to have a crossover). I think the DCEU is actually less likely to cross over with their shows and do the multiverse, they seem less likely to take risks, unlike their TV counterparts who embraced it.

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@scott_summers52 said:

@Don_Higashikata: When Diana said "the Age of Heroes," I thought she was talking about heroes who fought in the past, which made me think of the Justice Society. As excited as I'd be with a JSA movie appearance, that's more likely what she was really talking about.

Yeah, I think she means the last alliance of men and elv- sorry men and Amazons. Though a JSA movie along the lines would be sick, or even some kind of Earth-2 JSA type deal. Marvel's already secured the "purple spaceman invading Earth" storyline, DC should nab the multiverse idea while its hot

Marvel also already alluded to the idea of a multiverse with Doctor Strange.

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I'll make a prediction now: One of these variants will go on to inspire the creation of a character around them and have their own series. Just kidding, love Gwenpool. :P

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Ironically I feel you missed the point of my point. Sure, I'm non-Asian, but that doesn't mean that cultural appropriation can't affect me as I'm still a minority. Not addressing me directly, yet you directly replied to what I said and try to mention my race or difference in it as a point? Now it's interesting you go on to equate American with being white/Caucasian and also try to explain cultural appropriation to me. I was explaining why OTHERS were offended by the show, and even when on to say how I didn't agree with their point, but that I saw it. You commented in a way to straight out say you didn't understand why they were upset. You equated imitating with appropriation, completely different things. It shows that you don't get why others were upset.

Now unrelated to all that, I just finished the series. It wasn't as good as I'd hoped. The race issue is rather moot given the show, but the show just didn't hit the right spot or stride. I enjoyed Colleen a lot and even Danny at times, but there is a lot to be improved on. I actually liked Luke Cage more as it went on. It was obvious the homage they were doing more towards the end and the shift in tone occurred in the third act.

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Yes, I made a very similar comment on Yahoo. No, I don't think I missed the point. Most "white savior" complaint are bogus. To me, it's just like "cultural appropriation" in that it is a attempt to vilify natural behavior.

Why do many American films that deal with a foreign culture have a white male lead? It's not because of some nefarious evil white man plot to steal other people's culture and make it their own or to show that other cultures are "done wrong" and need a white man to save them.

It's because they are an American film that is targeted for an American audience. That's really the simple reason. It's the same reason why Hong Kong films usually feature and all Asian cast and when they deal with Americans, it's done from the perspective of the Asian lead. Take a look at movies like "Once Upon a Time in China and America" and the "Ip Man" movies from Donny Yen. In the past American was mostly white, so most films will feature a white male lead. As America diversifies, we'll naturally see more diversity in our films and TV shows.

Please don't take offense at this, since I'm not specifically addressing you. One of the reasons I really don't like it when a non-Asian tries to lecture me on "missing the point" about race issues is because it feels like a "white savior" is trying to save me from myself. I'm the one that has the life experiences of being an Asian in American (and yes, I have experienced lots of racism in my 53 years of living) but I'm being lectured by a young non-Asian kid about why I should be offended by something I'm not.

To me, the world already has a lot of real racial issues but let's not make things worse by making up fake things to be offended about.

BTW, I've just watched two episodes of Iron Fist and I like it a lot. To me, it's a lot better than Luke Cage which was a huge disappointment for me. I hope the rest of the episodes continue to be as good (Luke Cage just got worse for me). It looks like "The Hand" is the villain in this show and they seem very mysterious and dangerous. In Luke Cage, it just seems like Luke was way too powerful for the simple gang villains in his show. Hopefully, Luke and Danny will have great chemistry in the upcoming Defenders show.

I like Finn Jones as Danny Rand and I feel really bad at the crap he went through on Twitter. I also like the actress who plays Colleen Wing and the actress who plays Joy.

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Is the negativity about how the show is handled or another PC thing about the character not being Asian?

Cause I'm hearing more about the PC crap then anything about the show itself.

Which is stupid to begin with. Considering that Danny Rand has always been a Caucasian from the very beginning. So suddenly making him Asian or whatever just for some PC nonsense, is rather silly IMO.

The negative stuff I'm hearing seems mostly about having a white male cast as Iron Fist. As an 53 year old Asian male (American born of Chinese descent) who is a long time comic book fan since the 70's, I have no problems and approve of the casting of Iron Fist. He's a white guy in the comics and should be played by a white male.

I'm really sick and tired of the social justice warriors creating needless controversy. A lot of the complainers aren't even Asian and I think it's ridiculous when they try to lecture me on why I should be offended. The whole concept of cultural appropriation is stupid. People have been adopting elements from other cultures they have encountered throughout history and every race/culture has done it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

You commented on another article about this didn't you? I read this exact response word for word someplace else, and it seemed, that despite your ethnicity, you missed the point of why people were upset about the cultural appropriation and the "white savior" character that tends to happen (just like in The Last Samurai for example). It's one thing to imitate, it's another to adopt it as your own and show it off as "see, you were doing it wrong", which is the vibe some get from the "white savior" character. Now I"m not saying I agree with the arguments or even that having Danny Rand be of Asian decent would help (I feel that it would be a lose/lose and be accused of stereotyping). I just can see their point.

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I'm watching it and honestly it feels those who say it's really bad or terrible, are making hyperbolic statements. It's not great and compared to the other MCU Netflix shows, it doesn't hit those high marks. However, I still enjoy it, the action is solid, Danny is a likeable character who is dramatically different than all the others (in the Netflix MCU) who are more broody. The show doesn't come off nearly as dark as the others. There are things to work on with the show, but it's enjoyable. It doesn't hit a cord like the other shows on Netflix did. I think it just is seen as bad in comparison to the other MCU Netflix shows because those really raised the bar. I'm only on episode 5 by the way.

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@geewhiz said:
@dark_stranger said:

Is the negativity about how the show is handled or another PC thing about the character not being Asian?

Cause I'm hearing more about the PC crap then anything about the show itself.

Which is stupid to begin with. Considering that Danny Rand has always been a Caucasian from the very beginning. So suddenly making him Asian or whatever just for some PC nonsense, is rather silly IMO.

The negative stuff I'm hearing seems mostly about having a white male cast as Iron Fist. As an 53 year old Asian male (American born of Chinese descent) who is a long time comic book fan since the 70's, I have no problems and approve of the casting of Iron Fist. He's a white guy in the comics and should be played by a white male.

I'm really sick and tired of the social justice warriors creating needless controversy. A lot of the complainers aren't even Asian and I think it's ridiculous when they try to lecture me on why I should be offended. The whole concept of cultural appropriation is stupid. People have been adopting elements from other cultures they have encountered throughout history and every race/culture has done it. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

You commented on another article about this didn't you? I read this exact response word for word someplace else, and it seemed, that despite your ethnicity, you missed the point of why people were upset about the cultural appropriation and the "white savior" character that tends to happen (just like in The Last Samurai for example). It's one thing to imitate, it's another to adopt it as your own and show it off as "see, you were doing it wrong", which is the vibe some get from the "white savior" character. Now I"m not saying I agree with the arguments or even that having Danny Rand be of Asian decent would help (I feel that it would be a lose/lose and be accused of stereotyping). I just can see their point.

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I see these Funko things all over the place but I don't know anyone who's ever bought one. Are these things actually collected or is it just another manufactured fad?

Yeah, I know quite a few people with at least a few. I started two years ago when I got one free at SDCC '15 for attending a Conan O'Brien taping. Now I'm at twenty or thirty pops (some I got at cons, some were gifts, some from Loot Crate, etc). It's surprising how quickly you can get a collection of them going.

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@mk5 said:

I have to wait for it on Amazon Prime or Netflix, but I'll give it try. :) It sounds like Twin Peaks.

Doubt it'll be on Amazon Prime due to the deal The CW has with Netflix (about airing entire seasons of shows after the last day of the season). You can watch it on The CW's app on their site for free if you don't mind commercials.