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@king_ashnard: Yes it was... That thread was even worse and a disappointing lost for the Spartans plus persian and greek allies. Doesn't matter how many more number you give the spartans and persians, they still lost. You took it out of a Fire Emblem fanfic and it just display a nation powerhouse that annihilated around 6 million soldiers of Begnion Empire in one battle with just 2,000 men led by the character you're impersonating and less than thousand died? The author never stated that yet. And I played the game too and yes, there was little info except that nation was the best morale military in the whole game, I'll agree with that but you got to give more thought into it before you display Ashnard and Zelgius in the battle cuz they will solo for a reason. Yes, your thread was overkill... Medieval vs Bronze. Mithril plus steel and iron vs Bronze. Yeah, we knew who won in that thread.

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@killerwasp: I did read the rules. I know no nazgul, you misread my comment. I said that they are more mordor forces than there are in the book. PJ even stated this. In the book, there is only 45,000 forces from Mordor, but PJ added crazy number in the movie like I said i nthe previous comment. Yes, there were black numerions and Haradrium cavalry. You could barely see them when they broke the gates of Minas tirith. Seeing an Eastering that scene is not hard but seeing a black numereon and haradrium cavalry charging in was hard due to time. And there were only 2,300 Gondorians defending in the movie while from Mordor excluding the Mumikil was over 200,000 in a single siege of Minas Tirith. PJ even stated that. If you wanted 300 to win, you might as well get rid of Uruks, Easterlings, Haradrium, Variags, Black Numereons, trolls such as Olog-Hai cuz with them was beyond overkill in the movie even through that 2,300 soldiers manage to hold out the whole day. And you do realize that these orcs are not just regular orcs right? These are Morgul, Morannon, and Barad-dur orcs, not those weak like close to goblin orcs. There was a difference. One is size. Two is strength. Three is culture like for example, gundabad and morannon orcs are a warrior society type of orcs, nothing except Uruks(Isengard Uruk-hai and Black Uruks) are stronger or could top over them in fighting abilities. I mean, look what they did to the dwarves, the best infantry fighting force in all of middle earth(Yes, they are. Don't argue that.)

And I don't think I want to repeat myself that Easterlings are the most elite troops of Sauron's armies. Even every nation have problems with them. I know this isn't in the movie but the movie made a book. Easterlings have a cavalry force(Kataphrakts) that horses are melee resistant but that will be taken care of by archers.

Yep, Mordor wins. You forget to remove more stuff from Mordor. Even with no Nazgul, there are still more generals like the Serpent King of Harad(Not that Mumikil guy), Olog-Hai chieftein, two more Orc/Uruk generals, Variag Lord, and a Easterling Emperor. Yes they're in the movie. PJ cut them all out except for the two orc/uruk generals and the Olog-Hai chieftein just like he cut out pretty much half of Helms Deep battle and he did the same thing with the black gate and minas tirith. You think PJ will just make the movie just for a battle? That will take more time and he probably will have to make another movie displaying the black gates and Mount Doom. He never have a over 3 hour movie.

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@killerwasp: I don't think they could win at all and the nazguls are the reason why they struggle. And gothmog wouldn't be leading, it would be the Serpent King from Harad who got killed by theoden. What I remember that in the movie, there was only 2300 gondor soldiers against 200000 Orcs and Uruks, over 100,000 haradrium and Easterlings(not combined), I think there were 30 attack trolls and Black Nemunorians against Gondor. Spartans have to face waves of 10000 everyday but Gondor has to fight for days. I don't think Spartans are any close to a Gondorian nor would they win this battle.

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@king_ashnard : I have to say this but this is worse than 300 vs Mordor or Isengard thread

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sigh... Been done. It's done again.

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Daein wins. I read that fanfic a week ago and you know how hard Ike has to kill the first Nevassan Guard in that battle. And Zelgius and Ashnard would solo this one by a landslide. Doesn't matter if you give more numbers to Sparta and Persia, Daein would win. And how do you know some of those stuff? Did you talk to the author?