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I would like to see him start off as a hero in the New 52. He should be uneffected by the relaunch since he's in a parallel universe. So he should see this as his opportunity to start off with a clean slate and try to be a hero again, but I think he is too twisted and too far down the path of the dark side to really change, so I'd like to see him fall once again, maybe by someone remembering and him freaking out and killing them so no one else finds out, but it leads to his true nature being discovered and his return to villainy.

@Primmaster64: No, Daxamites may have a common lineage but they are not Kryptonians. They are anti space travel while Kryptonians were not, until the Eradicator device was put into play to keep mass citizens of Krypton from abandoning the homeworld. Daxamites live on Daxam and are not Kryptonians. That is why they have a weakness to lead which does not affect kryptonians, and are unaffected by Kryptonite while it is lethal to Kryptonians. If they were the same they would not be affected that durastically different by 2 common plot devices. And again with a relaunch Majestic could look a lot different than Kal-El. Just 2 Super-powered being with a similar physique and dark hair doesn't mean they have to look like twins or clones. Captain Marvel is a muscular dark haired man and they look different. Superman's face has changed drastically depending on who draws him, there are times where how he looks in Action has looked nothing like how he looked in Superman or Adventures of Superman. Not opening your mind to the fact that 2 dark haired guys with super powers can exist in the same vast universe is ridiculous close minded. But I can see I'm not getting anywhere. You don't think they can co-exist, fine. I say they can and they could write some incredible stories that starred both of them teaming up or duking it out against each other. I would love that and I think a lot of others would too.

@superboyprime said:

@RedHoodJT:@RedHoodJT said:

" @superboyprime: Just so you know there chief. Johns wrote "ahem" Infinite Crisis, Sinestro Corps War. Morrison wrote Final Crisis. Unless you are talking about the Legion of 3 Worlds. That was Johns as well. And you do know you are talking to a Jason Todd fan right? I'm just saying every writer that writes Prime wants you to hate him. In a sense I hate him. But its because I love the character that I hate him. He is, everything, that Superman should be. "

Well I suppose not every writer is consistent. My point still stands. Final Crisis and Legion of 3 Worlds had some terrible writing regardless of who the writer was.

False. Legion of 3 Worlds was an incredible story and the best of anything Final Crisis related in my opinion. I am a Superboy Prime fan and loved that story. Virtually every Superboy Prime story written (minus the Countdown series (7 or 8 appearances iirc), Adventure Comics 2 parter, and the last 3 issues of Teen Titans were written by Johns. His writing is what made the character essentially the character we all know and love. He is the only one who has a real say in my opinion of whats what with Superboy Prime. If you can't enjoy Legion of 3 Worlds then that's your beef, but 99% of readers, most Prime fans included, will agree that that is an awesome story. Not like it matters now cuz it's been erased, but in Pre-Flashpoint era it stands and is a damn good mini-series. Geoff Johns is an amazing writer, if you yourself think you could write a better story and beat arguably the most epic and best writer from the last decade then go for it, but until you start writing events like Infinite Crisis and Blackest Night your idea of superior writing skills are moot. I love Superboy Prime, but you know what, he is hated by a lot of people, and part of it is because of whiney fanboys like you.

@Primmaster64: @azza04: But Majestic is not Superman, yes they obviously are very similar but same goes for Daxamites and Kryptonians, as far as looking alike that totally depends on who is drawing them, sure if McGuiness drew them both they'd look the same, without masks all of his characters look the same. Its safe to assume that with Superman and other characters getting a makeover that Majestic could as well and they really wouldn't have to look similar at all. I really don't see how they can coexist in the same universe. Thats like saying there can be no Daxamites, or only one earthman Green Lantern. Why have both Green Arrow and Batman, they are both essentially rich business men who moonlight as vigilantes. By that same reasoning they can't coexist. Majestic and Superman can have very different characterizations, especially coming out of the relaunch, they can take both from scratch and move them in completely different directions. Saying they can't coexist simply because they have a similar power set, origin, and look a like is really an unfounded and a weak reason. Again by that same reasoning there is no place for Daxamites in the New DC Universe.

@Omega-Man : I really haven't found him too alien. He seemed like he himself didn't find out he was an alien until Action Comics #2. I think his more human side will grow, but so far I have been enjoying the split personas between him and Clark, very believable that they are not one in the same because they are so different. Superman does come across as cold but I think its that shock that he is truly alone, as an alien and without Ma and Pa, I think they are going to show the evolution of a hero, that starts out as a cold distant and arrogant youth that grows into the Superman that we know and love. But I see where you are coming from better now!

Well it doesn't matter now that's its been erased by Flashpoint, but very interesting. And like I said earlier, I think that definitely had to be the case, Sand Superman absorbing Superman, not the other way around, because Superman has no past history of absorbing beings or objects, and that would take quite a bit of explaining. I'm hoping that the guys on From Crisis to Crisis will tackle this and bring it up next time they interview a member from the creative team from this era.

@ Primmaster64: Why couldn't they? Majestic is obviously a copy of Superman, but we already have Daxamites which are very similar to Kryptonians, I really don't see why a third race with a very similar power set is so far out of the question. They could be from the same solar system, and could have both been from planets that were doomed by the same thing. I really don't see how Majestic can't exist alongside Superman just as Mon-El has from time to time. I think a story where Superman and Majestic both learn that the same villain or catastrophe doomed both their planets and has now come to take out earth next (the Daemonites would fill this role nicely) and see them team up. A force/enemy that is wiping out whole planets definitely could not be tackled by Superman alone. I think that would make a cool story and would be a great way to introduce Majestic into the New 52 DC Universe.

I am American and love that Superman has always been a patriotic symbol of the USA. I haven't really seen him anit-patriotic by any means in the New 52, we've only seen him in 4 issues of Action, 3 of Superman, and 3 of Justice League with some smaller brief appearances in other books. I don't think they've come out and made him any less patriotic or anti-patriotic, we just haven't seen him with a flag or anything yet. That doesn't mean we won't in the near future, I just think it hasn't made since yet in the story telling for him to be that symbol. I mean heroes haven't really been around that long in the New 52 Universe and are still highly scrutinized and not trusted, I don't that it makes sense that he'd be that symbol that we're used to already when there are still a lot of citizens of Metropolis out there who aren't ready to trust him or any other heroes yet. I think we could perhaps start to see that after the current arcs of Justice League and Action Comics wrap and all of the major titles starring Superman come into line as far as timeline goes. We'll see I guess. Are there any specific situations or pages that make you really feel that he is anti-patriotic so far in the New 52, or are you just talking about the lack of poses or patriotic images we have yet to see, that traditionally (1st cover of Adventures of Superman post-Crisis on Infinite Earths & MOS reboot) we see early on after a reboot of him?

@ Omega-Man : Sand Superman was able to absorb power, it didn't have to be from the sun, but definitely could have been. Wow his power wasn't from the Sun specifically, he could still absorb the Sun's radiation, just as he did the kryptonite radiation, to be powered up. As for the Superboy & Eradicator parts, I think if the Sand Superman absorbed Superman, he would contain his DNA, and thus makes both the synthetic cloning or genetic template copying by the Eradicator, and cloning by Cadmus to make Superboy possible. And Superboy didn't really have the traditional Kryptonian powers, his powers are mostly tele-kinesis based. @ ReVamp: That is a good point, but Superman prior to the encounter has zero history of absorbing objects, so him actually absorbing the Sand Superman would be unprecedented and require quite a bit of explaining.

Good call, I don't neccesarily think that means that they have merged, I'm still hoping Majestic will come in, this would be a great way to introduce him, have him team up with Supes, but great call on Daemonites. Grifter is a little lacking and I've been considering cutting it (it'd be the first of the 29 New 52 titles that I'm reading that would get cut) but now will continue to read it to go more of a feel for what the Daemonites are up to in the DCU.