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@maulsmacker: I'll have my post up in a few days and in the mean time I'll go inactive to re-read OPM.

@maulsmacker:

Both still eons beyond one punch man so, and regardless The Big bang in GoW seems to be the expansion of the void of chaos while this is the scene where the universe is created as said in what I quoted.

Primordials aren't Kratos. I once again, asked for Kratos and you've once again given me excuses.

I simply don't need to because power scaling exists , Kratos stomps titans who ripped apart the primordials , the big orange one there is Ouranos who had his balls ripped off and was chopped to pieces by Cronos someone Kratos destroys without that much effort , don't need to do much when I've scaling , this is the equivalent of asking"show me grand Priest from DBS busting stars otherwise saitama solos him" , not how scaling works.

Power scaling? That's your excuse? Lol okay pal.

Ok , you're still going first with proving Saitama wins , I will make the thread in few minutes.

Gladly, I'll have it up within a few days, I got to re-read some of OPM once more.

@professorrespect:

Ok but what suggests Namor is a mid tier

Who has he defeated consistently high tier wise?

Higher from where

Than mid tier from what I've read and understand. Do you do think differently, is Namor not a mid tier?

@maulsmacker:

Oh this fodder? Primordials before they changed their size have better feats then OPM

The universe was visually punched outta ouranos here and the information that the universe was created here is reaffirmed by two words of gods

You're turn.

*your

Post away or cope with your gang GoW fans.

Gang? LMFAOOOOOOOOOO this man turned battleboarding into gang warfare

Something's wrong here. One states they created the big bang, the other said their result gave creation to galaxies, so which is it because one varies greatly when compared to the other....

Primordials are also not Kratos, so when I asked you to post something Kratos has done, I'm asking for you to do so, I can't imagine it would be that hard when "simple" Primordials can do the same thing.

I accept your offer, but don't be lazy. You've already been lazy on feats, post the thread.

@rajjarsalt:

No worries, m8. I gotchu

Thank you.

This is why it weakens him and why Hulk ends up knocking him out.

I knew it hampered his ability as you can clearly see in the movie his lightning was greatly restricted, but his stats being restricted and more believable to be on a more even playing field is a nice touch and that helps further' MCU's Thor's case then.

It was actually the other way around. Thor uses Surtur to defeat Hela because she's unstoppable while on Asgard, and it is Surtur's destiny to destroy it - he won't die until that happens.

Correct, I misremembered that part, but the point remains though. Surtur did die from what we could say is a large planet level explosion. How does that connect Thor who couldn't defeat Hela; also died from large planet level explosion, to being a universal threat or even a multi-galaxy level thread?

I mean let me put it this way, we saw Asgard explode and from that explosion the universe itself didn't seem all that affected by it other than its disappearance. What were the after affects of Asgard exploding?

But yeah I'll say consistency problems exist for any Marvel property.

Most are, which is why I always try to find the middle ground in anything. Regardless, I don't think you're a troll you at least put forth the effort for solidify your reason and when we're done even I may or may not agree depending on the answers and where we find common ground, but I at least want to thank you for explaining it in detail.

You act like I didn't accept nor decline a CaV, Maulsmacker can be more direct and CaV me, or better yet here let me show you the example.

I challenge you to a CaV, I'll represent Garou and Saitama at their best vs GoW5 Kratos and Thor.

Don't be lazy. Pull from the respect thread and showcase it to me. From what I've played which is all of the GoW games, none of them showcase Kratos busting a planet.

It's quite simple, here I'll show you just how easy it is.

Saitama sneezing away Jupiter

We all know the Earth can fit inside the Red eye of Jupiter.

You're turn. Post away or cope with your gang GoW fans.

@rajjarsalt: I dont tend to care what Directors/Authors say because its straight garbage half the time. However, ur evidence seems shockingly surprising. However, if this is the case, why does thor in the MCU get K.O'd by Hulk and stunned by the technology used in Thor Rags?

Another question of my concern is why did Thor use Hela to fight Surtur if this was the case? Because Surtur destroyed Asgard which judging from what Ive seen could be summed up to large planetary level. Even if we go above and beyond and state it's galaxy level, a universal buster whcih is what you're getting is, seems rather high end for Thor. I think Thor has lows and highs, but from what I'm understanding his middle ground is around Garou's level, but Garou seems a lot more skilled and quite a bit faster.

@strike3 said:

Agreed.

Suggesting its cope when it's clearly not, is something you shouldn't be going around sprouting off. Especially when Kratos has failed to even planet bust or move at FTL speeds like Garou or Saitama. By all means though showcase Kratos destroying a world and I'll gladly accept that he can at least defeat Garou. Show me Kratos destroying a Star; I'm not buying that multi-system/galaxy/whatever level some of the fans want to state and I'll accept Kratos defeating Saitama. If you fail to do so, you are indeed the one coping along with several people within this thread.

@professorrespect said:

What reason I side with him is the fact Namor has had tons decades worth of material and generally he's stayed within one bracket within said material despite yourself showcasing some of his higher and better feats now within the recent years. Balance within the lows and highs with the common ground being the middle suggests Allen unlike Namor has been given a power increase due to arcs making it clear everyone get's a power increase. Allen doesn't have decades or that many comics to stand behind him to begin with, but his highs and lows seem to put his common case feats higher than Namor from what I've seen from both. If you think otherwise, you're welcome to change my mind.