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I hate everything about the current incarnation of the team and have consistently hated them and each and every character related to the franchise for the past 20-odd years.

There was a time when the Avengers were awesome to read: the Kree-Skrull War, the original Korvac Saga, when they introduced Count Nefaria...

But it has been literally decades since the Avengers were anything other than a jingoistic, neo-fascist, holier-than-thou government tool. They consistently side against the wronged party in any inter-heroic conflict, they're more than happy to militarize any and all heroes, and are so over the top conceited they have drunk their own kool-aid and are firmly of the opinion the Avengers can do no wrong.

Also, I find absolutely reprehensible the fact Marvel has shoved down the public's throats a such deplorable examples of humanity as Tony Stark and Carol Danvers as some kind of heroic model to look up to.

I for one want nothing to do with them.

I'm wondering what would be the outcome if Athena and her Gold, Silver, and Bronze Saints were isekaid into Worm ca. the beginning of canon.

Would their presence accelerate Scion/the Warrior Entity's going bat-shit nuts and onto a genocidal rampage? Would it delay Gold Morning in any significant way? Would they be able to prevent the Gold Morning? Or would their presence have no effect at all and be utterly inconsequential? What do you think?

Athena:

Gold Saints:

Silver Saints:

Bronze Saints:

vs.

Scion/the Warrior Entity:

So, what's the verdict? Do things get better or worse? Or does canon suffer no changes at all beyond the merely cosmetic?

Just one gosh-darned minute; is someone actually arguing for Skywalker/Vader, who's got all of some 40-odd years of active Force use behind his belt, as being more powerful than the "Eternal" Sith Emperor Tenebrae/Darth Vitiate/Valkorion who ruled the Sith Empire (around one half of the galaxy) for the better part of 1500 years?

Is that what you're saying? Ouch! I would very much like to see how you justify such a belief because from here it sounds mighty iffy. In my humble opinion.

Why no Supes, or Aquaman?

Hmmm, Stormbreaker... breaks. Too bad, so sad, buhbye.

@heiqn said:

This feat solos DCEU.

@infinitemass@areneacaulem

Really? Have you seen"Man of Steel"? Superman tanks several of these within the first few minutes of learning to fly. The fights against the Kryptonian remnant and later against Zod are well beyond this so-called "feat".

Interesting, where do you get that from?

This. All of this. Oh , so verymuch this.

Oh, so very, very right.

Addendum.

Forgot to attach info link for the Patriarch Destine, Adam.

Not really a respect thread but... AdamDestine@Writeups.org