Mandrakk

This reeks of desperation. There are already months of banter on this with you part of it every step of the way, as well as many other gauntlets with these same exact characters. You have all the information you want and need and you already know my answer. Nobody here thinks you are seriously interested in my response, since you were inside nearly every other Final Crisis related thread that spawned over recent times. Your bait gauntlet is as obvious. Don't tag me anymore.

Here are those interview statements. Sorry for the delay.

1. Grant Addressing that Final Crisis was moving too fast and he had time restraints during production. The result was that it didn't quite fit with the canon of DC prior. Countdown was already also being written, so he had to force the story out asap and there were inconsistencies. Bringing this up because as I've said many times, Final Crisis is almost it's own Canon and the arguments of the opposing side of this are that things don't match up. Undeniable confirmation Final Crisis was half canon, half his own thing due to time constraints on publication. Many users insisted this wasn't the case. Well, Grant already explained this for them in 2008.

2. Grant addressing your statement of him being a spirit. Confirms what I said, he's not a Ghost or anything spiritual.

3. Grant confirming what I said about the Orrery and it being everything there is and ever was. Not just the "multiverse of universes" but the 5th dimension, heaven, hell and everything else. Confirmed 100% by Grant.

Here is a link to the very long interview. http://www.newsarama.com/123-grant-morrison-on-final-crisis-1.html

4. Confirmation the 5th Dimension is part of the Orrery, despite many users insisting Myx and the rest of the Imps were not contained within it.

They were. All of them. Grant already stated "everything that ever was or will be in inside the Orrery." The Monitors contained all of it in a little bitty jar.

These guys don't have substance or reality to warp, so each time someone says Living Tribunal or the Beyonders, or Lucifer or whomever else can defeat TR and Mandrakk...just hasn't read Final Crisis nor taken a few moments to sift for this information. This is why I am quite passionate about it, because these very few users pull together and state some seriously stupid stuff that was already confirmed by Grant years ago. Nothing more than users unwilling to read or accept that Thought Robot left the comic page and that reality warping is ineffective against him, and that the Orrery contained literally everything else. All that information is public, but these few users don't want to listen to the Author. Those users are now swiftly becoming the minority.

Oh my. The inner fanboy in Mandrakk has so much to say about the Easter Eggs in this movie. Mandrakk is speechless and doesn't know where to begin...

Appreciated. Mandrakk will not consume you now. This is supposed to be me with a thumbs up and smiling...Mandrakk needs to learn Photoshop better.

I agree with all that, actually. Both official sources stated almost the same thing, so we can't argue with it. DC Creation was/is as big as an infinite multiverse, as it stated it was once that large. A multiverse isn't infinite by definition though, but it can be. The terminology of Multiverse, Hyperverse, Omniverse is an ongoing debate. DC and Marvel use the terms differently, often. Many users here have varying opinions and definitions for these terms, so it is very hard to come to agree on what they mean. That Orrery of Worlds was once fully infinite and contained all the universes there was. Post COIE, just 52. Also confirmed in the guidebook.

Okay.

The Multiverse is the first central area. This is the Multiverse of universes. Beyond that, Pinnacle and Chaos as well as the Speed Force, which encompasses only the entire Multiverse and is the very edge of it.

Creation encompassed all Existence. Not just the Multiverse, proven in COIE.

Another quote from the official DC guidebook:

"Heaven is an eternal realm that exists outside the Multiverse, it's the home of the Angels that, alongside the Spectre."

Zilla confirms all Existence dies with the Monitors if Mandrakk wins.

Go back to post 32 in this thread on page one for 6 scans that showcase the answers you are looking for. You are the third person in this thread to ask for these scans that were posted on page one already. I've nicely repeated myself on this very subject three times in this thread alone. I know you are busy, so when you get a chance drop back to page 1 and check out post 32 where I posted all the scans confirming this.

DC Creation is not the Multiverse. You are objectively incorrect on this.

Monitors existed well before COIE. They had all of it. They were made specifically to view and overlook all of it. Grant Morrison confirmed.

Leaving the Comic Book denotes your ability to ignore the rules of the comic book. You are a higher thing than the comic book. LT is just a comic book character. If done in a non parody manner, this denotes the character leaving it is absurdly more powerful than any comic book character is. The Deadpool argument is nonsensical, its done for humor. Thought Robot doing it was not done for humor. But to showcase that everything else in DC is just a comic book and a story. Thoguht Robot and Mandrakk were above all the stories inside of it. Confirmed by Grant Morrison.

Living Tribunal and Lucifer cannot affect those made of nothing. I'll ask you for the same proof that they can affect someone with no substance, not bound by time, has no molecules to warp, exists beyond a reality where there is nothing and that are completely conceptual beings powerful enough to exit DC comics or Marvel comics.

I don't understand your argument here about Over Monitor resisting. This is opposite of what happened. Over Void is the strongest thing in "DC". It deleted Mandrakk and the idea he was. Mandrakk still returned. Not even the Over Void can fully stop Mandrakk in his full form. In his lesser form, he wasted the Radiant and the Spectre. His ships are all continuum breakers. Monitors are much more powerful than the ships. Mandrakk is much more powerful than the other Monitors.

Thought Robot took the best shots of Mandrakk.

Thought Robot > Living Tribunal on an objective level.

Cosmic Armor engulfed and locked away DC comics. Why would it have trouble with Living Tribunal and doing the same to him? Living Tribunal has not ever engulfed an entire Fiction. It is Living Tribunal that doesn't have the feats to compare to Thought Robot. Infinite Living Tribunals isn't enough because their powers are all based on something that is a lesser thing that what Thought Robot is.

The official guide book says the Monitors were aware that once there was infinite universes. They contained all of it until the COIE occurred, then it was dropped to just 52. This was reaffirmed in the official guide book as well, that they once contained all of it, but it suddenly dimmed to only 52 for some reason. That reason was COIE. And no, this is not because Anti Monitor did something. This is because of the story event COIE where the authors removed all the Monitors and left only a few in order to cut the characters down and reshape DC to a new structure.

What exactly did you want Grant Morrison to confirm that wasn't already shown? I'll try to tackle that but you have to be more specific with what you want answered.

"He doesn't have feats saying he can replicate that." This is not a logical argument.

Thought we were talking about the 5th Dimension. You can choose any of the universe bubbles in the official map and choose your own spot, since no exact location was given. The 5 Dimension is still located inside the Orrery, that is the only confirmed information I was able to find.