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#1  Edited By Man Without Fear
@difficlus said:

a few seconds not a minute

:P

Karate Kid is a human with no actual powers yet he toys with kryptonians and damazmites and blitzes them to different solar systems.

Just now DCU rolls with some of its characters.

I said "under a minute" which suggests any # of seconds that are under 60. 
Karate Kid is a different case than Cassandra Cain as i'm sure you can find other showings that are contradictory to the one in question.
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#2  Edited By Man Without Fear
@difficlus said:

ridiculous combat speed and nerve strikes, also dodged a sniper bullet less than 1 feet away from her head even while caught by surprise (she was turned away from the snipers position)

Sounds like an over-exaggeration of her speed.Hitting 50 characters with a nerve strike in under a minute is Flash level stuff.Cassandra Cain is a human with no actual powers.
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#3  Edited By Man Without Fear
@k4tzm4n said:

@Man Without Fear: He is indeed arrogant, and it's a factor when taking character into account. However, the only reason she won was because she had the flashbang given to her by Batman. Without it, it's clear Zeiss is the superior fighter. Could she take some wins with weapons and such? Certainly, but it was clear he's her superior, imho.

I know why she won but the fight is like 6 pages long and for like 3-4 of those she was hitting him and receiving no counter. I think if you calculated where he stands based on all of his showings he may be superior to Catwoman but I haven't actually read all of Zeiss' appearances i've only read the one i'm speaking of and the one I posted scans from. So as far as I can see he's not really that skilled he just has certain physical advantages over some characters which I believe in Daredevil's case, he could make up for with his own powers.
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#4  Edited By Man Without Fear
@difficlus said:

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

Daredevil curls 400 lbs, flipped over a limo, defeated 100 Yakuza simultaneously, and KO'd Mr. Hyde with a mailbox.

He wins.

Cain defeated over 50 drug enhanced people in 3 seconds..

How does that make any sense?
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#5  Edited By Man Without Fear
@k4tzm4n said:

@Man Without Fear: Cute, but that's not an accurate representation of how it went. He smacked her around a whole issue. The second time, she briefly took the edge due to his arrogance. He then turned the tide and remarked "he hasn't even started yet." That's when Catwoman was saved by plot, seeing as she used a device given to her by Batman. If she hadn't had that, the outcome would have been obvious.

I don't own the issue but I do have the scans of their "second fight" in the said issue and it does appear his arrogance may have been the cause of Catwoman taking the edge but he always appears arrogant from what i've seen. 
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#6  Edited By Man Without Fear
@HBKTimHBK said:

She is faster then he is, and her move reading is an advantage she has over most people.

Cassandra Cain is a better fighter than Daredevil by miles.Her physical ability and move reading ability wouldn't matter otherwise.
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#7  Edited By Man Without Fear
@k4tzm4n said:

@Man Without Fear: Posting his other 2 fights would be cool, instead of just the one where he's easily dropped... seeing as this is a random encounter, and in that match Batman knows Zeiss well. This isn't saying Zeiss wins here, but it would be nice to give those who don't know the character a fair look at him. But whatever.

I could also post the one where he can barely hang with Catwoman.
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#8  Edited By Man Without Fear
@HBKTimHBK said:

Cassandra takes this one, she is simply too fast and with much better training. Sure the sonar helps, but she can predict what he's going to do. She has a big advantage over him here.

Cassandra wins but it has nothing to do with her speed or her "move reading".
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#9  Edited By Man Without Fear
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@Man Without Fear: The whole damn staff should be in prison, the fact is they all knew what Sandusky was doing and they all turned a blind eye to it and allowed him to continue doing it for 9 years regardless of who he reported it to when he realized that nothing was being done about it he should have taken some initiative and done something himself at the very least he could've fired the guy. I'm no expert but I believe child rape is a valid reason to fire someone and if it isn't I don't really want to be a part of this species anymore

I'm not arguing with any of this. I'm just saying that Paterno's hand in this is part of a larger issue but he seems to be the one getting all the heat from the incident although the higher ups already knew what was happening and Sandusky was the one who was raping kids.
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#10  Edited By Man Without Fear

Paterno was used as the fall guy.He got fired for not "doing more" but I haven't heard much about Sandusky who was doing the rapes himself or the Penn State Officials that were notified about Sandusky before hand and they did nothing.Peterno shouldn't have had to snitch on Sandusky.It should have been handled when it was brought to their attention in the first place.