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#1  Edited By Malevolent1

Respect the most?

Probably Ben Grimm, with the Silver Surfer a close second.

Villain?

Doom!

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Got a buddy that does Manga. He's looking to release their first comics this September.

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@jedixman said:

@malevolent1:

I don't know anything about you. However, I do know about Bane, and I know him to be an extremely knowledgeable and thorough debater. So the fact that you call him a troll severely damages my opinion of you.

Bane has no control over me. I was here before he joined. I simply give respect where I feel respect is due. The mods don't look the other way when it comes to trolls; actual trolls usually get banned. Bane is not a troll. He's earn a place here.

And, I'm sorry, but using CBR as a point of reference is laughable. That place is terrible; I was a member and I greatly disliked the people there.

I suppose if your opinion of me really mattered, I'd be crushed.

For some strange reason, you butted into this conversation, why? That what we got going on here? Or is Bane capable of handling himself without you around? The fact that you have been here longer than him tells me you've seen him action. And you should know better than to call him respectable, because he's not. And my opinion remains the same: he's a troll. His style of debate is to lead, if he gets backed into a corner, with insults, spam scans, some relevant, some not and hope that the truth gets buried somewhere in the melee. Y'see, Bane is not interested in the truth about a character...he just wants to win at all costs, regardless of the truth.

I don't care whether Bane exercises control over you or not: what concerns me is that he continues to get away with his outrageous behavior...and the mods ignore it. You can get on your soap box and preach about trolls being where they should be all day long: there is one loose in comic vine and his name is Bane. And curious: what does one have to do to earn their place here? If it's to troll, well...yeah, he's earned it in spades.

And CBR is a great place to debate feats. It's not about liking people so much as it's about arriving at a measure of truth about each character's abilities first. And if you happen to get along with the folks there, beautiful. But, hey if you're looking to just be buddies with folks and turn the other way when your buddies post out of context scans and spam baloney, more power to you.

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@jedixman said:

@malevolent1 said:

Otherwise, tell Bane to quit bugging me. The trolling is quite useless at this point.

And again, they frown heavily on board raids. Just an FYI.

I'm waiting Bane.

I'm more likely to take the word of a highly respected debater than... well, you.

"They?" Who is "they?" And what board raid are you referring to?

"They": the moderators at CBR. Feel free to re-read my post above. And you're welcome to your opinion about me. But my earlier points stands. The sad thing about it, is the battle forum rules talk about this being a place where people who are interested in the subject (A vs Z) can come and learn. The whole idea is to learn. Instead, what we have is a pack of fans running around, led by Bane no less, treating people with contempt, insulting, spamming out of context scans...pretty sad.

Bane is a troll. Period. And, yes...moderators look the other way when he trolls. If it wasn't for Bane, this would be a much better place to debate.

Really don't know what control Bane seems to be exercising over all you folks, but whatevs.

And what do you know about me? I mean, seriously? Never had a contemptible word for you and you're insulting me? With all due respect, you know nothing about me.

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@dondave said:

@jedixman said:

@malevolent1:

...

You're calling out Bane?

You're about to get stomped, man. I'm just gonna leave and watch from a distance.

LOL

Bane and I have chatted on numerous occasions. Bane and I have talked Wally vs Silver Surfer in the past and Bane was wrong on a number of points. And I already called Bane out some time ago. I invited him to meet me on another forum where, no offense to these forums, feats are more rigorously scrutinized. Additionally, Bane is a major troll. Everyone (who is not a Flash fan, or otherwise a fan of DC comics, knows this...)...yet moderators consistently look the other way. He's been doing it for a long time. Talking to that dude is an enormous waste of time. If he wants to chat Wally vs Norrin, my earlier challenge stands (and for sake of disclosure...those forums do NOT tolerate board raids...so to any interested parties...don't do it...)

He never responded. The last chat Bane and I had (Wally and Surfer), he asserted hyperspace was not used until the mid 90's by writers to explain away "the Gauntlet grab" (written in 91), when hyperspace was clearly used with reference to the Silver Surfer since his first appearance in 1966. Englehart used it early on in the second run as well in 1987. Most associate the first use of hyperspace in relation to the Surfer with Byrne's one shot from 1982. That would be incorrect. Clearly, Stan Lee had it in mind when he wrote FF 48 in '66.

The last chat resulted in an enormous spam of useless information about the Silver Surfer in an attempt to give the appearance that he knows all things Surfer.

My earlier challenge is a standing one: meet me at CBR and let's debate on the most prestigious arena in the world to debate comic feats (not a slight to Comic Vine...the site is outstanding and easily one of the greatest comic sites on the internet, particularly considering they are relative newcomers to the game...). See how long he lasts there. He's carved out a nice little world for himself over here and that's fine. More power to him. My message to Bane: quit trolling other folks on these forums that disagree with you. You're behavior is absolutely contemptible. And all you other folks around here, same for you. Grow up.

Otherwise, tell Bane to quit bugging me. The trolling is quite useless at this point.

And again, they frown heavily on board raids. Just an FYI.

I'm waiting Bane.

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@laflux said:

@malevolent1: I would tell you to cut your losses but I'm enjoying this. Continue

And I'd tell you to get a better user name and avatar, but, eh...I've always been known for my forgiving nature.

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@dredeuced said:

@malevolent1: I didn't say you were trying to make sense, I didn't even say you intentionally lied, just that you did and it was obvious. If you had never "callously" said Wally had human durability then there wouldn't be this debate. That's the sticking point -- you made an incorrect statement, I told you it wasn't true, and then you go on to prove me right by posting a lot of scans of Wally having superhuman durability -- though, admittedly, downplaying it to the best of your ability.

Call me mad, you're the one spamming memes to try to belittle me.

Kudos for putting up with Mal for this long, but it's pretty much his schtick. He'll post a bunch of out of context scans from issues he's never read, and then when he's corrected on them he'll backtrack and claim you've got him all wrong, then he'll change tack and try something else, and after he's corrected on that he'll spam a bunch of irrelevant images and try to make it seem like you're being foolish and he's the paragon of rationality and not floundering for a semblance of a cogent argument.

Just wait until he starts talking about how his friends down at the comic book store think your argument is ridiculous. That's when you'll know for sure he's gone off the deep end.....again.

You do realize, hopefully, that I have read every issue of Wally's comics...the whole 19 year continuity right?

And this comment from the guy asserted that all of Silver Surfer's speed feats are the result of hyper space?

*chuckles*

Tell me Bane, do you still insist that writer's didn't start using hyperspace until the mid 90's and onward with regard to the Silver Surfer?

You are absolutely my favorite internet troll. Oh the laughs...

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@lvenger said:

@dredeuced: You won't get anywhere with Malevolent111 so just ignore him. I've had my share of problems with him in the past as have other users on here. He'll get on your nerves with his incorrect reasoning and out of context spamming of feats.

You have never had problems with me, save for you and Bane...trolling (there's a shocker)...and posting screen shots of my conversation with Kurt Busiek, from another Comic web site (that was real classy) as if there was some sort of "ownage" by Busiek of me. The problem is you don't like my opinions concerning certain characters. I really don't care. But you really shouldn't paint me as problematic when the problem rests with the pack of trolls that consistently badger (heck, let's just call it what it is...bully) other members when they don't agree with that same little pack.

I understand this is a DC friendly forum. That's cool. But I'm not gonna just weakly go along with everyone else when I clearly see otherwise when it comes to certain characters.

But really, don't paint me as the problem when the problem exists elsewhere.

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@malevolent1: You lied when you stated this:

No one said is wasn't superhuman...but clearly, the speed force offers limited durability.

Just because you later admitted that, oh, the Speed Force DOES grant durability based on every single scan you could ever find of Wally doesn't mean you weren't the original person to say he had human durability. That's the statement that capped off this entire durability argument. If your original statement had been "The speed force grants him durability" then I wouldn't have had to disagree with you.

You lied, probably because you forgot your original post in all the scan dumping and point by point arguing. I was never here to say Wally was outright more durable than Superman, just to correct your false statement of "human durability" that you later turned into "Speed force enhanced durability" -- the latter of which is true, even if you made some incorrect remarks on canon along the way.

1) I showed conclusive evidence that the speed force grants the Flash limited durability.

2) You can't explain it away. You're pissed.

3) So you refer to a post I made earlier, where I callously referred to Wally's durability as "human"

4) During our discussion, I say the speed force grants limited durability but me referring to his durability as very human is a bona fide contradiction?

If I was trying to lie, wouldn't it make more sense that I FIRST made the comment that he had some durability resulting from the speed force...THEN during my conversation with you try to assert that he had little to none?

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