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In legends it’s probably KFV in a good fight, but in canon they’ve just gone for ‘rule of cool’ and made Vader op and way beyond his past self. So in canon prime Vader should win.

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Seems like a mismatch against Sidious here, an argument could be made for Kyp alone. Adding all the others, including powerhouses like Revan, and I don’t see how Sidious stands a chance unless it’s a later version of him. This team is massively superior to Maces team.

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Bastila is a funny one to place, she actually has some half decent feats in KOTOR such as holding off Malek for a bit, and this is despite supposedly only being a Padawan (which never made sense to me).

At her theoretical prime as a Jedi master I could definitely imagine her being on Jinns level. Unfortunately we’ve only ever seen her while she’s young, never later in life.

And anyway, the op specifies KOTOR and she just hasn’t shown anything that can challenge Jinn so he definitely wins this.

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I don’t understand this order, why is Bumi and Gyatso above Ozai and fusion Unalaq?

OT: Stops at Ozai, they have no answer to lightning spam

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Good fight, but Ventress wins. Contending with late war Kenobi and Anakin is better than anything Drallig has done. Unfortunately, Drallig is lacking in feats, and even if we take all his hype at face value, such as Dooku saying he could give Grievous trouble, I still don’t think that would be beyond Ventress. While I’m not the biggest fan of scaling chains, I think it’s also worth noting that Mace didn’t select Drallig as part of his ‘best’ team to take on Sidious, but did choose Fisto, so he must’ve considered Fisto more capable in the field. The same Fisto that Ventress dispatched fairly quickly quite early on in the war. And on top of that Ventress has proven to be a much more capable force user in combat that what we’ve seen from Drallig.

The only saving Grace for Drallig is the game version of his Knightfall duel. If we take that as accurate, then Drallig definitely takes this because Ventress would absolutely not do as well against that version of Anakin. However, it completely contradicts both what is written in the ROTS novel, what is shown in the hologram in the film, and what we hear from sourcebooks about no one being a match for Anakin in the temple. So as far am I’m concerned, that game fight is just an embellishment and should not be taken as ‘canon’ in any continuity.

Ventress wins, ranging from low to high difficulty depending on how accurate you believe his hype to be. Highly doubt it’d be a stomp though.

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@frozen: oh absolutely, I’m not saying you’re wrong or invalid. I’m just stating my opinion on Filoni’s content in relation to this thread

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TCW (and by extension Filoni content in general) is and always has been wildly inconsistent in scaling, with characters just being as strong as he needs them to be for the plot.

I see this as no exception. I doubt any thought was given to how Barriss handled herself against Anakin when writing her character in this new series.

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I’ll be the odd one out and say Yoda here

DE Luke had surpassed Vader, but I don’t think he was particularly close to Sidious before getting a large amp. Sidious beat him pretty comfortably before that, and knocking someone back a bit with a single surprise force push doesn’t discount that.

I’m firmly in the Yoda > Vader camp as far as legends is concerned, and I don’t think DE Luke is enough above Vader to bridge that gap. I can see it being a close fight, but Yoda seems more skilled to me and would overwhelm Luke. His fighting style is also very unique and not something Luke have ever experienced before.

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Well Darth Revan isn’t as powerful at KFV by quite a way, but then again no one at the temple at the time really presented any challenge to KFV. I mean who are the most powerful at the temple at this point, Shaak Ti and Cin Drallig? I don’t think either would be too much a threat to Revan. Most Jedi there were just average Padawans, knight and Masters, anyone notable was spread over the galaxy fighting the war or sent to arrest Palpatine.

If lots of Jedi ganged up on Revan they may have more of a chance of taking him out than they did against KFV, but I think it’s still unlikely they would be able to coordinate themselves well enough under the circumstances. And his Sith troops would be just as effective as the 501st were against the ‘fodder’ Jedi.

Revan should be able to accomplish what Anakin did, but maybe with more difficulty.