@sly_141: My pleasure, I know Heir is good for just talking things out on the battle boards too. Orion is very impressive with Pre Flashpoint feats but the thing is he's not that much more powerful than Superman. Whereas Doomsday is and Orion doesn't have a good track record with Doomsday. Lightray is the bigger weak link though.
Scans for the 90s fight? Cause if this is the drunken Carol instance that really doesn't favor Stark at all. Also who are the enemies Tony could fight that Carol couldn't? I wouldn't call the "Time Runs Out" instance with Hulk Fairplay she hit Hulk which caused a crater in the ground and then before she barrages Hulk we atleast get a brief pause where she talks to Clint and Hulk has no reaction. Out of personal curiosity, how is Carol getting BRD by Hulk a oneshot but you'd suggest the Aquaman/New52 Superman wasn't? The situations are extremely similar. Give how long they were missing, Facial appearance after being hit. Both attackers speaking before they hit them. It's a bit off topic so if you want to pm me explaining it to me that would be great.
Kryptonite weakened Superman isn't Kara though is it. They don't share feats because their Kryptonian, you suggested Kryptonite weakened Kara was more powerful then Carol and I was curious to where that's gotten from. What's Brainiac done outside his ship though that makes him a high tier? Cause if I'm not mistaken he I powerful inside his ship? So the degree of how differential he is outside and nsidde I think should be mentioned.
The Superman thing stands impressive but the Thanos statement is ABC logic. I havent been keeping up with Action Comics after the Doomsday issues but whats Lex weapon choice and howd that effecf Carol? What are Lex's physicals like putside durability? Also Model Prime has feats and Carol physically was cracking that armor.
OK but I know you've seen them already for that Iron Man vs Captain Marvel CAV you did. From Iron Man vol 3 #24.
Not to mention comparative performances such as Extremis Iron Man fighting a Hulbuster Iron Man suit that KOed Carol or hurting Fin Fang Foom with repulsors where Carol's energy blasts didn't do any visible damage. How is the instance with Hulk not fair? He operates at the top of the Marvel high tier food chain and has taken worse damage than what Carol is capable of. It's perfectly valid to point out how much better Iron Man has done by comparison on a consistent basis against Hulk.
This again? How many times have we debated this feat? I've already explained my stance on why Aquaman punching Superman is a far cry from a one shot as one shots get. It's not even remotely comparable to Hulk decking Carol into orbit for a significant period of time corroborated by statements that Carol is gone compared with Superman only being knocked away for a few pages.
Fair point, so Kryptonite weakened Kara has taken Kryptonite sword stabs from Batgirl, has fought off Reactron without powers on pure fighting skill, could still BFR Clayface and at a time when she was literally dying because of her own negative energy one shotted Donna Troy and Superwoman at once. Donna is definitely capable of giving Carol a good fight so again I don't see why Carol is more impressive than a Kryptonite weakened Kryptonian.
I'm not sure why the Thanos thing is ABC logic. Ultimates made it abundantly clear that Thanos was weakened before fighting the Ultimates/She Hulk/War Machine. That team is comprised of characters that Hulk could beat, and regular Savage Hulk at that. Thanos must have been significantly depowered to lose to them. Lex was using lasers, bullets, energy blasts and energy charged fists. Here's the full scans for their first fight from Action Comics #957.
I have just realised that Lex could power up Carol by firing energy at her so you have that in your corner now. His forcefields have allowed him to tank a massive explosion visible from space and he has FTE speed.
If anyone wants to see a child of SM/WW done right, go watch Sky High. Heard that's getting a sequel
It is? That's awesome, I liked that movie. Wonder why it's getting a sequel only recently.
Mhmm. Dunno, I guess cus Superhero stuff is all the rage (a bit late in the game though). Maybe they wanted to wait till they had a story, my guess is it's either gonna be the next generation or the dude is a teacher at the school.
It's probably also why Incredibles 2 is getting made (god I can't wait for that movie) If it's with the same actors then the dude has to be a teacher at the school or a superhero himself.
I agree with Heir, Team 1 have the much better chance here. Doomsday is too tanky for Orion to beat and Zod is much better featwise Post Flashpoint so can keep Lightray occupied for Doomday to beat Orion.