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I actually don't have any problem with this new Kid Flash (or is this Impulse, now?) being bi-racial. Actually he got some interesting backstory, too, and he would be new addition to speedsters family as Barry's apprentice/nephew/whatever. Even if there's no Wally West here, I would somewhat accept the new Impulse. Just like Kaldur and Garth are different Aqualad.

Making him Wally West is the main problem. Yes, I agree if it's the insulting part. You'd think that they want to make this Wally being rejected by fans. I already accepted him as a different character than Wally, but it still grated my nerves when I remember his name. This is why I never pick up any Flash issues 'till now. (sorry, Imp).

Hello! I'm a new comics reader, who is developing a headache since start reading comic, mostly because I'm researching the timeline of pre-52 first from wikipedia rather than the new one. I don't know if it's a wrong move or not... ^^; (But I'd say that I'm a proud Robin(s) fan even before reading the comic--need to know Steph more)... nevermind. Tim Drake's backstory feels really interesting and well crafted before, and he fit perfectly into the Family. I want to know him more (and his character development), but I find it hard to get digital copy of his 'Robin' and 'Red Robin' issues. Pity I can't find the continuity in new-52 since his and other Bats character reboot. :(

But that's not my point here.

So, I'm reading several new-52 Bat titles right now and I'll say that Snyder's and Capullo's Batman did it good(the one that didn't give me a massive headache). As far as I read, it still fits pre-52 continuity(don't know about Zero Year, though) with those little family-moment tucked in between.

My questions: Would pre-52 Tim Drake fit into Bat titles new-52 continuity? If the answer if yes, tell me how, and why. I need your opinion, here. :)

...Please?

can't argue with that. XD

either some of them deduced that Dick Grayson is actually alive (since Bruce wasn't as crazy as he had been after Jason's death... suspicious, right?), or the editorial also forgot the importance of this one. It feels very out-of-character since he's supposed to be the heart of The Family. If they do know, that makes the whole ressurecting-Damian thing makes sense. If not, well, either they are emotionally compromised (or egoist), or they want to make Damian's second life miserable by force him to living the world where Dick Grayson is 'dead'.

If Damian really comes back in the near future (and if DC do it right), it won't be just 'something'. Damian will EXPLODE, I'm sure. Maybe to his father, too (which I doubt, knowing DC).

Whoa, this is intense.

As far as I know, Jason and crowbar had personal history between them (well... you see, Joker). Even if Tim did it to save lives, Jason would still take it personally. I think it's logical.

Hmm, I always thought that Jason was supposed to be a vigilante (different kind from Batman, though). But I can't argue that development in pre-52 made him a stereotypical criminal who strays from his true path. (Namely, killing criminals who actually deserved it.) This is why I like him in new-52 more.

Eh, by the way, maybe, MAYBE Batman did attempt to kill The Joker once upon a time.Check this: http://screenrant.com/the-killing-joke-batman-killed-joker-grant-morrison/
and this: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/did-dark-knight-secretly-kill-608209

What do you think?

I will stick with pre-52 for the backstory of the character. But, admittedly, he got better characterization in new-52. In pre-52, I feel that Battle of The Cowl arc done him no justice for made him typical villain.

Yes, he did applied (with slightly different reason and a whole different method from pre-52 this time). ^^;
Besides that, from my opinion, it's Bruce's decisions that make new-52 Tim the way he is. In pre-52, Bruce is already don't like his idea to wear Robin suit (which makes him more determined since he always said that Batman needs a Robin). In new-52, B is actively offered that to Tim (hence why I use the term 'recruited'). His falling out with Batman doesn't help, either. (in pre-52, it's his falling out with Dick that made him Red Robin. but Dick and Tim is already too close, so he can't really hate Dick.)

Since in new-52 Tim never discovered Nightwing (and Batman's) identity by himself, thus made him never bonded with Dick that well, I suppose the brotherly aspect is kinda dulled? I don't know if he's secretly mourned or anything, because there's no indication that he is that I know of. Especially after Damian's (his demon-brat-little-brother) death, the loss of another (beloved) brother should've taken toll on him. At least in pre-52 it would hit him hardest, since he and Dick was very close.

which issues?

From the reality point of view, that's the answer. (his brother haven't even mourn him... yet?)

From the story point of view: Batman's orders.

I hope I can tell you to deal with it, but I'm still sore about that, too. ^^;

Honestly, this new issue amuses me greatly. Especially when Midnighter and Dick both helping to deliver the (super?) baby. And, whoa! There's actually some big plot development (at least, I think it's big). Midnighter now knows the person behind that swirly-lolipop face. I don't know if it's good or bad thing.

Even though this isn't the best issue I read, this give me more insight about Dick Grayson as a character. He's the only character I really enjoyed (besides Alfred) since new 52, and that's because they doesn't really change. Not much. At least his personality doesn't.

The story is enjoyable, sweet, and sad. It certainly give me a break from the whole Batman tense atmosphere. For the art... I wonder how did Janin makes the panel still interesting while the setting is nothing but sand. Awesome.

Btw, is anyone in the Bat family mourning him nowadays? Besides Alfred and Barbara, I mean. ...Tim, at least? (or did new52 Tim wasn't so close with Dick as he was 'close' with Damian?)