How does the second iteration of the Sidhe Master fare against the demon Dark Lord?
All out, morals on but fighting seriously. The battle takes place in Silverspring in Parthoris and Corvus is at his best iteration in the game with all of his spells and equipment available to him there.
How does the second iteration of the Sidhe Master fare against the demon Dark Lord?
All out, morals on but fighting seriously. The battle takes place in Silverspring in Parthoris and Corvus is at his best iteration in the game with all of his spells and equipment available to him there.
How does the second iteration of the Sidhe Master fare against the demon Dark Lord?
All out, morals on but fighting seriously. The battle takes place in Silverspring in Parthoris and Corvus is at his best iteration in the game with all of his spells and equipment available to him there.
This is going to be a short but concise analysis of why the PT Jedi Master has more raw power than Valkorion. Simply put, I will compare their best feats and then explain why Yarael Poof's feat is easily better and how it surpasses the limitations that Valkorion's feat has here.
Vitiate was capable of draining a planet in around the time of GHW, that is 5000 BBY. However he required the power of 8000 other Sith Lords to do so, as well as an elaborate ritual that took weeks to perform there
Eight thousand Sith Lords gathered on Medriaas and agreed to partake in a ritual that would bind the Sith together as an ultimate dark side weapon.
The ritual lasted ten days.
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Even as Valkorion, he needs to consume more and more beings on Ziost to create disturbances in the Force that are powerful enough to allow him to consume the entire planet:
Now this is just conjecture based on my own interpretations, but based on the JK story the ritual to consume the life in the galaxy required 2 things. A certain amount of deaths over a certain time and a huge amount of death in a short time, probably creating a disturbance in the force which Vitiate can use to feed or something.
On Ziost his spirit controls beings and then uses to kill other beings then posses more, it's a cycle until I think it reaches a point where he's able to consume the planet.
This quote was affirmed by Charles Boyd here:
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=948640
The most noteworthy part about this is that Vitiate needs "disturbances in the force" that result from killing people in order to actually allow him to consume the life on the planet. In other words if the massive disturbance in the force that resulted from Vitiate's actions which involved a cycle of possessing and consuming more and more individuals didn't exist, then he wouldn't be able to consume or drain the life on Ziost.
Thus Vitiate on Ziost is amped by both the nexus of Ziost, which is one of the most powerful dark side nexuses in the entire galaxy, as well as the massive disturbances in the force that result from the cycle of Vitiate possessing and killing individuals there and using those disturbances to fuel his power in order to drain the planet.
Vitiate has to go to such great lengths in order to merely consume the life on the planet and drain its oceans on the surface.
Let us see what Yarael Poof is capable of
The infant of Shaa is an artifact capable of destroying worlds with its raw power and the kind of energy it unleashes is unlike anything the galaxy has ever seen before:
The artifact will unleash such power that Coruscant's destruction would be a beacon visible "from the core worlds to the outer rim" which is a tremendous amount of energy which the artifact is capable of unleashing. Only a supernova has enough raw power to be visible across an entire galaxy as far as cosmic phenomena go, so the artifact being capable of unleashing energy comparable to a supernova speaks a lot for just how powerful it actually is and how containing its energies is easily one of the best showings of raw power in Star Wars as a whole.
But Yarael Poof does manage to contain its energy:
Now taking into account the fact that he was actually fatally stabbed before doing this and it becomes evident just how impressive the feat is here:
There are also multiple quotes directly stating that the artifact had the power to destroy planets thus confirming this objectively and without a doubt:
During this period, the Jedi face the threat of General Khorda, who procures a Force-energized artifact with planet-killing power.
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We can see here that Poof manages to "keep the artifact from exploding" meaning he contains its energies which is clearly stated here. We can infer that he uses Tutaminis here since that is the power that allows force users to contain force energies in SW in the lore.
You might argue that Tutaminis and Drain are two different powers but that only makes this feat much more impressive. Tutaminis is a very difficult ability to master and it is far more difficult than telekinesis. With telekinesis, normal Jedi and Sith can easily move huge objects weighing several tons but even absorbing the energy of fire or lightning or lightsaber blades is an incredibly impressive feat for a Jedi or a Sith despite the fact that absorbing fire or lightning doesn't require as much raw power as for eg. moving a ship through tk.
On the other hand, it is very easy to cause damage with drain than with telekinesis. The damage output one can produce with drain is far more than the damage output the same person can produce with tk. Virtually every example in SW shows this because there are many powerhouses that can use drain or other abilities to produce massive damage output but are limited in their ability to produce the same output with tk.
In any case, this is meant to show a comparison between them of raw power so comparing two different abilities does still stand here. Tutaminis is how Yarael Poof shows his raw power and drain( or whatever ability that Valkorion used on Ziost) is how he shows his raw power and we have a proper comparison of how much power they both show individually.
To summarize
Valkorion on Ziost is amped by the powerful nexus there. Despite that he needs massive disturbances in the force caused by a cycle of feeding and killing people to fuel him in order to consume the life on the planet and its oceans there.
Yarael Poof, while extremely weakened is able to contain the energies that are "unlike anything the galaxy has ever seen" and if released, the destruction of Coruscant would be "visible from the core worlds to the outer rim" showing just how impressive the feat is actually here.
We can clearly see that Valkorion only affects Ziost on a surface level. The energies that Yarael Poof managed to contain however were clearly going to tear the planet apart, which is vastly more impressive. When you consider that the explosion that would have resulted had Yarael Poof not managed to contain the artifact's energies would be visible throughout the galaxy, the question of who has greater raw power becomes pretty clear here.
Even if a person manages to move a planet with tk, the feat is much more impressive than simply affecting it on a surface level. Tearing a planet apart is much more impressive than simply moving it and Yarael Poof was extremely weakened as he contained the energies that would have torn a planet apart. Thus it is evident that Yarael Poof has a greater amount of raw power than Valkorion here.
While Yarael Poof is an extremely powerful Jedi Master he certainly doesn't feature very high in the PT hierarchy. He is canonically inferior to TPM Mace, meaning he is inferior to the likes of Count Dooku, Obi Wan Kenobi and Darth Maul, and far below the likes of ROTS Sidious and Yoda which goes to show just how advanced the PT era actually is and how advanced are the high tiers let alone the top tier force users are there.
This blog will be focused on showcasing the abilities of legendary Jedi Obi Wan Kenobi, as an Initiate. As a rank, it is lower than the rank of padawan and the lowest Jedi rank. Jedi who are Initiates are basically children Jedi, taught only the most basic Jedi skills and are not formal apprentices under a Master. Instead, groups of Jedi Initiates are trained by a single master in basic lightsaber combat and basic force skills among other basic education.
This blog covers Obi Wan Kenobi till the age of 12, where he is a Jedi Initiate. He becomes an apprentice under Qui Gon after this and is then recognized as a padawan or Jedi Apprentice.
The main topics of elucidation here will be:
1. Clearing up a common misconception
2. General hype about Obi Wan's power and potential
3. The Draigon feat
4. The Wall feat
There will be other feats too, but the ones above will receive the most elaborate explanations and analysis here.
This blog will not cover feats of Obi Wan after he becomes an apprentice under Qui Gon, that is the timeframe from when he is 13 till when he is 25 years old during TPM. Although certain quotes will be taken from that timeline to demonstrate his ability in this particular timeline, as a Jedi Initiate.
"There is a secret to the warrior arts. One that has nothing to do with training. Nothing to do with fancy movements. It is the willingness to trade lives with your enemy. To never fight for anything you would not die for. Those who fight for glory, or gold, or power, stand on shifting sand, not the bedrock of true courage."
-Obi Wan Kenobi
There was or maybe even is, a common misconception that Obi Wan's potential in the force is low, because he was almost thrown out of the order and wasn't chosen by a master before the age of thirteen to be an apprentice. Factually speaking, this is utterly wrong, and quite surprising that this misconception is still somewhat prevalent.
Looking at the facts, we have:
No one would see if he gave Bruck the beating he deserved. Bruck was often cruel, but usually not so brazen. He was deliberately provoking Obi-Wan, trying to get him to loose his temper.
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Obi-Wan, for all his talents, had been not just a little like Anakin as a boy: rough-edged and prone to anger.Credit: Rogue Planet
This may be surprising to those not intimately familiar with the character, but Bruck succeeds spectacularly. He had even done so in the past:
Obi-Wan’s anger, his impatience, had been his downfall often enough in the past Bruck hoped to fill his mind with rage and despair so that he would not be open to the Force.
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Because the truth was that if Bruck had set the trap, he had walked into it willingly. Blindly and without though, perhaps. But it was his own will that led him there. What kind of Jedi would he make if he could fall for the tricks of a bully like Bruck?
Obi-Wan threw himself back on his sleep-couch. He had let Master Yoda down. He had thrown away his one last chance by letting anger cloud his mind. Now his worst fear had come true. After all his years of training, he was not good enough to be a Jedi Knight.
Yoda had always told him that anger and fear drove him too hard, that if he didn’t learn to control them, they would lead him down a path he didn’t want to follow. “Befriend them, you should,” Yoda had advised. “Look them in the eye without blinking. Use faults as teachers, you should. Then, rule you, they will not. Rule them, you shall.”
Yoda’s wisdom was engraved on his heart. How could he have failed to follow it?
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Obi-Wan held his anger, and merely smiled at Bruck. Yet a white-hot fury was building inside him.
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“What?” Senior Council Mace Windu asked. He was a strong, dark-skinned man with a shaved head. He studied Yoda with eyes that could pierce like blaster bolts. “What would be the point? Obi-Wan has proven once again that he cannot control his anger or his impatience. And Qui-Gon Jinn is not ready for another impatient Padawan.”
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Obviously, he has a history with this, with his anger and rage, well known to even Masters like Mace, who usually wouldn't get that involved with "Jedi Initiates" unless they exhibited extraordinary talent and/or extraordinary uncharacteristic behavior for a Jedi. In the case of Obi Wan, it was both.
As shown later, Obi Wan and Bruck were both filled with anger in their duel, and even though Obi Wan easily defeated Bruck when he went on the offensive, Qui Gon didn't take Obi Wan as his apprentice, due to the fact that a boy filled with so much anger was likely to turn to the dark side.
“Strong in the Force he is,” Yoda remarked.
“And angry and reckless,” Qui-Gon said, a trace of irritation beginning to edge his tone. “And likely to turn.”
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This pretty much seals the point. Obviously, Obi Wan is not as gifted as someone like Anakin, so the Council would not overlook his faults that easily. Although, as shown later, Yoda was willing to do so.
So, this should clear up any notion that Obi Wan had a low force potential due to this reason. His hype and feats show for themselves and he should easily be among the people with the best of the best force potential in the entirety of the SW legends.
Yoda senses Obi Wan's potential as an infant, and is immediately drawn to him:
Yoda rested his small hands on his own cross-legged knees. "Watched you I have, Obi-Wan, from your first day in the Temple. Drawn to you I was. As an infant, a youngling, a Padawan, a Jedi Knight. Burn in the Force's light always you have."
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Obi Wan's aura in the force particularly stood out for Yoda and he was drawn to him throughout Obi Wan's career as a Jedi.
Yoda takes a personal interest in the progress of Qui Gon Jinn and his apprentice Obi Wan Kenobi. Yoda recognizes their considerable strength and potential even as he disagrees with some of their "dangerously reckless" choices.
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Indeed that is confirmed by the fact that he has taken a special interest in the pair of Obi Wan and Qui Gon throughout, due to their ability and potential indicated by the quote above.
Obi Wan mastered the Jedi fundamentals by the age of two only:
Skywalker lacked the foundation of a Temple education, so Kenobi had to teach him Jedi fundamentals he'd mastered himself by age two.
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Most people have barely even begun to walk and talk by the age of two, but Obi Wan has "mastered" the Jedi fundamentals taught to Jedi Initiates, the phase of Jedi training that Anakin missed. This includes basic lightsaber training, as well as basic force powers such as precognition, basic telekinesis etc. All by the age of two.
Yoda remarks highly on a 12 year old Obi Wan:
“On Qui-Gon that depends – and you,” Yoda said. “Come back tomorrow and fight for him with the Force as your ally. Perhaps accept you he will.” Yoda put a comforting hand on his arm. “either way, it matters not. Leave the Temple soon you shall. But tell you I must, to lose such an apt pupil, I am sorry.”
Startled and pleased, Obi-Wan looked at Yoda. The Master’s eyes glowed as he blinked at Obi-Wan. A compliment from Yoda was as rare as an expression of regret. That was what made his opinion so highly prized. At that moment, Obi-Wan felt that even if he didn’t become a Knight, he had earned Yoda’s respect. That was a great gift.
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He does so again, to Qui Gon:
Qui-Gon didn’t answer. Yoda knew him too well. He could not argue.
“Strong in the Force he is,” Yoda remarked.
“And angry and reckless,” Qui-Gon said, a trace of irritation beginning to edge his tone. “And likely to turn.”
“Not all angry young men to the dark side turn,” Yoda said calmly. “Not if a proper teacher they have.”
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Qui Gon is disgusted at the notion of Obi Wan becoming a farmer, disgusted at "such a waste of potential":
“For the Agricultural Corps he will work.”
Qui-Gon grunted. “ Farmer?” Such a waste of potential. “Tell him . . . that I wish him luck.”
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Obi Wan "excelled" at his Jedi training:
A pensive, often reckless youth, Obi Wan was quick to take action, often giving little thought to the consequences of those actions. Nevertheless, the youth excelled at his Jedi training, and proved himself to be a diligent and loyal student.
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During a mission, Obi Wan emits the force with such power that Qui Gon is "astonished" by it:
Qui-Gon was taken aback. He felt the Force emit form Obi-Wan like a breaking wave. The power of it astonished him. He locked his gaze with Obi-Wan. Their wills slashed silently in the dark tunnel.
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Fight With Bruck Chun( fellow Initiate) in front of Qui Gon and the rest of the students and teachers in the temple:
The Masters had decided the fight would be without blindfolds. Bruck’s face was close, and his eyes glared at Obi-Wan with hate. The moment stretched, extended. In Bruck’s eyes Obi-Wan saw a future mapped out for him, a future in which anger ruled him and he began to hate all who opposed him.
Obi-Wan reached out for the Force. He felt it flow around him, but he could not fully grasp it. Here was the boy who stood between him and his dream, who mocked him, who tricked him. He pushed against Bruck and saw the surprise in the boy’s eyes as he fell backward.
Obi-Wan took advantage of Bruck’s uncertainty to aim a sizzling attack at Bruck’s face. Bruck ducked and slashed at Obi-Wan’s feet. Obi-Wan leaped high in the air.
As a child, Obi-Wan had learned by fighting older students to avoid flashy attacks that wasted energy. Instead, he’d been trained to fight defensively, to block blows with small movements, or to avoid them.
As Obi-Wan parried Bruck’s moves, he felt Qui-Gon Jinn’s eyes on him. The Jedi was a rebel and a loner, and Obi-Wan wanted to be seen as a rebel, too.
Instead of waiting to gauge Bruck’s attack strategy, Obi-Wan attacked suddenly and furiously. Bruck tried to block the attacks, but Obi-Wan’s lightsaber met Bruck’s with stinging power. Bruck nearly dropped his weapon.
Obi-Wan brandished his lightsaber in both hands, swinging brutally. Bruck tried to block a second time, and fell back, sprawling . His lightsaber switched off and went skittering over the uneven floor.
Obi-Wan slammed down, a decisive blow that should have won the bout, but Bruck managed to roll aside and grab his lightsaber. He barely had time to switch it on before Obi-Wan’s lightsaber battered down again.
This time, there was no blocking the blow. Bruck’s lightsaber knocked back into him. Obi-Wan caught Bruck cleanly between the eyes, burning his hair and scorching his skin.
Bruck cried out in pain as both lightsabers burned him, and Yoda announced, “Enough!”
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Both the boys were filled with anger throughout the fight, and while the fight was somewhat even during the first part, Bruck is clearly stomped by Obi Wan once he goes on the offensive. It is then that the disparity between the two characters becomes apparent since Bruck clearly cannot handle Obi Wan's power as is directly stated.
This is arguably Obi Wan's most impressive feat at this stage. He fights off an army of endless numbers of giant winged reptiles called Draigons who are massive enough to hold Whiphid warriors in their mouths and are 20 m in length.
Qui-Gon fought to control the draigon’s mind, bring it safely to the ground. He was worried. As far as the eye could see, draigons flocked toward the caves. Their roars were deafening as they called to each other.
Qui-Gon had seen the giant trees in the Silver Forest of Dreams on the planet Kubindi. Some of their vast leaves could be twenty meters wide, and when they fell in the autumn, they floated like giant rafts through the sky. That is what the draigons reminded him of. They dropped through the leaden skies, just as the leaves floated from the Kubindi forests.
Yet these creatures were deadly; and like Qui-Gon, they were headed toward the caves.
Qui-Gon called with his mind, warning young Obi-Wan Kenobi again of the danger. Then he waited as the draigon wafted downward, close to the narrow ledge outside the caves. Qui-Gon chose his moment, then sprang off the back of the beast. He landed on the ledge, steadying himself with a hand against the outside wall of the cave. The draigon flew off with a soft confused cry, his mind released.
Qui-Gon had taken two steps toward the cave when he saw Obi-Wan race from its mouth, lightsaber held high.
Obi-Wan ran from the cave only to stop short. He stared at the sky in horror.
At first, he’d thought it was just dark clouds. But now he realized that scores of draigons were blocking the sun. And they were all winging toward the caves.
Never in his young life had he imagined such terror. His legs went weak, and his mind was suddenly blank. He didn’t know what to do.
The he saw Qui-Gon heading toward him. Relief flooded him. The Jedi looked battered and bloody, and he was holding one shoulder stiffly. Still, he was alive.
“Did you get the dactyl?” Obi-Wan called.
Qui-Gon nodded. “The Arconans?”
“Still alive, but barely. Go, Qui-Gon. I’ll hold the mouth of the cave.”
....
Draigons hurtled from the sky by the dozens, converging on the lad. Even Grelb had to admire the young Jedi’s skill. His lightsaber struck again and again, and the boy showed no sign of tiring. It was almost a pity to kill him.
....
The battle was like none Obi-Wan had ever imagined. He felt no fear. He had accepted his death. The odds were just too great against him. Now he only fought to protect the Arconans. He felt no anger. He did not hate the hungry beasts that dropped endlessly from the blackened skies.
The Force was his ally.
He could feel it moving him, moving through him, and through the draigons. He leaped and somersaulted. He spun and slashed through muzzles and claws. The battle became a dance of sheer survival.
As he danced, Obi-Wan changed. He felt subtle promptings he’d never felt before. He saw attacks before they came. He sensed the flail of a tail before it happened. The muscles of the draigons seemed incredible defined, so that he could read tiny flickers of movements that revealed which way a draigon would turn. Dead draigons piled on the ground around him. He gave himself entirely to the dance.
After several long minutes, he began backing toward the mouth of the cave. He had an idea. If he could kill the draigons at the very mouth of the cave, the bodies would block the entrance. If enough entrances were blocked, they might have a chance.
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The feat is clear. "Endless" numbers of draigons converge on him all at once( so many they were blotting out the sun), and he fights them all off at once. Further, draigons were rising to the sky itself in greater numbers continuously drawn from their resting places due to the firing of the Whiphids as elaborated later on.
Later when Qui Gon joins him, together they fight off the draigons till nightfall:
Together, Obi-Wan Kenobi and Qui-Gon jinn fought side by side. The Forced pulsed between them. They knew without speaking where the other would move, when the other would strike. When Qui-Gon moved forward, Obi-Wan sprang back to protect his flank. When Obi-Wan leaped to the right, Qui-Gon made sure he was covered from the left.
Clat’Ha joined them, a blaster in each hand and a spare strapped to her leg. Qui-Gon and Clat’Ha had worked quickly to administer the dactyl to the Arconans, and they had revived enough to stand together and fight. Si Treemba and a group of Arconans handled any draigons who dared breach the opening.
Obi-Wan’s plan worked. Draigon bodies piled up at the entrance, blocking it. Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, and Clat’Ha left a small squad to protect it and raced to the next cave opening. Then the battle began all over again.
Before his death, Jemba had ordered the Whiphids and Hutts of Offworld Corporation to defend the cave where they had gathered. He instructed them to fire from the rocks outside the cave. It was a foolish strategy. Hundreds of miners had been slain. Finally, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon convinced them to fight at the cave entrance and use the draigon bodies as shields.
The Offworld miners and the Jedi worked to guard the cave entrances, but draigons dug new entrances through the rock, so that at times they broke through and came at the miners from above or behind. That’s where the Arconans came in handy. By evening, it was evident to every Hutt and Whiphid on that rock that the Arconans were not cowards. They were creatures born to caves and darkness, and when it came to time to fight in their own element, they proved themselves to be ferocious and cunning.
No draigon that tunneled through a cave’s roof caught an Arconan by surprise. Indeed, the Arconans were so fierce that the Whiphids and Hutts finally retreated and left them to finish the battle.
Near nightfall Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon were still battling at the last entrance to the caves. Smoke rose from the draigons’ mouths as they let out their piercing cries in the dusky air. But the cries had changed from war cries to signals. Suddenly, what was left of the flock roared and leaped into the air. The draigons circled the island twice, then flew off in defeat.
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The book is meant to show the emotional evolution of Obi Wan as he moves past his stage of anger and recklessness and matures into the Jedi we all know( though he obviously does not complete that transformation in this book). Here, Obi Wan has learned to do just that and take a pretty big step in that direction when confronted with a challenge far greater than any he has ever faced before. Thus, his power significantly increases during the course of the duel. As evidenced by this:
“You did well,” Qui-Gon said. “I felt the Force move in you.”
“It was . . . astonishing,” Obi-wan said quietly. “I thought I understood its power. But I see that I had only glimpsed one corner of what it could do. For years, I thought myself worthy of it. But it was not until I recognized my own unworthiness that the power began to fill me.” Obi-Wan turned to Qui-Gon. His eyes searched his face. “Do you know what I mean?”
Qui-Gon smiled. “You are learning. And yes, I know what you mean.”
Silence grew between them, but it was a comfortable silence. Always before, Qui-Gon could almost hear the pleading Obi-Wan was holding back. Now he felt only acceptance of Qui-Gon’s feelings, and his own fate. Another victory for the boy. He was impressed.
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Just for additional confirmation, Obi Wan's power is confirmed to increase throughout the course of the book, as he emotionally matures past his reckless stage:
Qui-Gon’s blue gaze studied Obi-Wan keenly for a moment. “Obi-Wan, when you accelerated the ship, what thoughts did you have?”
“Thoughts?” Obi-Wan asked doubtfully. “I wasn’t thinking about much of anything. I was afraid of the pirates, and I just knew I had to get away fast.”
He was too exhausted to care too much about giving the wrong answer. Better just to speak the blunt truth. Qui-Gon would approve of his actions or not. He was tired of trying to please him.
“So you didn’t think about the fact that you would tear the ships from the docking bays and kill hundreds of pirates in the process?” Qui-Gon asked in a neutral tone.
“I didn’t think about what I was doing,” Obi-Wan replied. “The Force led me.”
“Were you frightened? Angry?”
“Both,” Obi-Wan admitted. “I . . . fired on the pirates. I killed, but I didn’t do it in anger. I did it to save lives.”
Qui-Gon nodded, just the smallest of movements. “I see.” It was the answer Qui-Gon had been looking for. It demonstrated that Obi-Wan was growing stronger in the ways of the Force.
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So, it should be pretty evident that Obi Wan when he emerges from the battle, is far superior to the Obi Wan at the start of the battle.
But that is not all. Qui Gon, who felt the force in Obi Wan in the fight, noted after a few weeks of this battle, when he took Obi Wan as his padawan that with every mission he was more and more convinced that Obi Wan would become extraordinary among the Jedi, demonstrating that Obi Wan was increasing in power and skill with each mission( which obviously includes their first mission on the unknown planet here, against the draigons and Offworld in this book, even if Obi Wan is not officially his padawan):
And he had Obi-Wan. With every mission, he was more convinced that his Padawan would become extraordinary, even among the Jedi. What he taught would live on. That was legacy enough.
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When Obi Wan is 17, he remarks that he had grown "so much" during the course of the 4 years since Qui Gon had first met him, and although this has nothing to do with him as an Initiate, it does help in clearly indicating his pretty high growth rate at this stage:
Then an image of Obi-Wan when he had gone to help him on Melida/Daan, wounded, humble, and brave enough to face his mistakes - even if doing so meant never becoming a Jedi. The boy had grown so much in the last four years. More than getting stronger and taller, he was learning to trust himself, his instincts, and the Force.
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It should be evident that Obi Wan has had a pretty big increase in power after this battle, but even this is not his prime stage as an Initiate.
During their fight against Xanatos a few days later, Qui Gon finally "realizes" Obi Wan's true potential, indicating that he had grown even more:
He was saved by the selfless quick thinking of Obi Wan and although Xanatos escaped, Qui Gon finally realized Obi Wan's potential.
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So, at his prime as a Jedi Initiate( a few days after this event) Obi Wan should be far better than the Obi Wan who went into the battle initially against the draigons here.
To further describe the draigons:
It was the first he’d seen up close. The draigon had tiny silver scales over all of its body, and huge yellow eyes like those on a fish. It had no front legs, only a single huge claw on each wing. And its mouth had the strangest teeth – like enormous needles that arced down from its gums. The monster vaguely reminded him of an Ithorian razor shark.
The huge reptile had half of the Whiphid marksman in its mouth.
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The mere cry of a draigon is enough to set an entire cave into vibration, and make the ground tremble:
Suddenly a draigon roared near the mouth of the tunnels. The sound was astonishing. The cave trembled. Bits of dust shook loose from the roof.
....
Suddenly, a great shadow blocked the light to the cave. A draigon shrieked, a cry so piercing that the rock around Qui-Gon trembled. He pressed himself against the side of the cave.
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What's more noteworthy is that lesser numbers of draigons laid waste to an entire Whiphid army:
The Whiphids all turned and began to fire at the draigon.
Qui-Gon pulled himself up the last three meters, then wedged himself into the small cave. There, he paused, panting for a long moment, clutching his sore right arm. The acrid scent of sulfur and ammonia assaulted him. He peered farther inside the cave. The dactyl crystals had been thrown on the smooth floor of the cave, and were giving off a dull yellowish glow.
Th blaster fire was coming fast as ever. The guns made a steady boom boom boom.
But the shots were no longer directed at him. Instead, the Whiphids had hidden in the rocks, firing at draigons. The blaster fire attracted them by the score, and draigons roared in the sky, flocking down from the cliffs. Several of the huge beasts had collasped around the Whiphids, but others were wheeling from the skies in a feeding frenzy.
Qui-Gon looked down from the cliff, watching the struggle. He had traveled all morning without attracting the attention of a draigon. Now, by shooting their blasters, the stupid Whiphids were drawing them in droves.
Draigons screamed, a great shrieking cry, and dove out of the clouds on leathery silver wings. They soared over the stones and swiveled their heads. Teeth gleamed under the strobe of lightning flashes.
The Whiphids scattered and tried to hide beneath huge slabs of stone. One Whiphid roared in terror as a draigon dropped from the sky and plucked it from its hiding place.
Qui-Gon used the diversion to load the dactyl into the cloth sack he had brought. For several moments the Whiphids fought and screamed and died as dozens and dozens of the huge draigons plummeted toward them.
....
Before his death, Jemba had ordered the Whiphids and Hutts of Offworld Corporation to defend the cave where they had gathered. He instructed them to fire from the rocks outside the cave. It was a foolish strategy. Hundreds of miners had been slain. Finally, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon convinced them to fight at the cave entrance and use the draigon bodies as shields.
....
Because of Jemba’s orders, over three hundred Offworld miners were killed in the battle. Eighty-seven Arconans had lost their lives. The caves filled with the Arconans’ hum of mourning.
Credit: Jedi Apprentice-The Rising Force
Note that the blaster fire was attracting more and more draigons, so by the time the army was dealt with, Obi Wan would have to face a far more number of draigons than the Whiphids faced( the draigons had already dealt with the Whiphids but in the process a huge number of them had accumulated and they were then heading in the direction of the caves towards Obi Wan there). Indeed, the numbers of draigons coming from the sky to attack Obi Wan were so great, that the draigons blotted out the sun, as stated earlier.
To summarize:
-Obi Wan fought off an endless amount of draigons so great in number that the numbers coming from the sky to attract him blotted out the sun.
-Obi Wan and Qui Gon together fight off the draigons for many more hours after that continuously.
-Obi Wan's power increases significantly during the fight with the draigons and throughout the novel as he struggles to master his emotions and evolve into the character we all know, and increases even more a few days later where he is at his most powerful as a Jedi Initiate. Obi Wan at his best during this stage of his career as a Jedi Initiate thus, should easily do what he did against the draigons initially.
-Far lesser numbers of draigons than the ones that moved in to attack Obi Wan destroyed an entire army of hundreds of Whiphids shortly before.
Another very impressive feat for Obi Wan around this time happens a few days later on Bandomeer after the previous ordeal for Obi Wan on the unknown planet with Offworld and the draigons.
By changing the temperature of the entire wall, uniformly( and thus generating thermoelectric currents in it), Obi Wan is able to turn an entire wall transparent. The wall was one with a property of becoming transparent if thermoelectric was generated through it( which happens with change in temperature):
"I think we found the fertilizer," Obi-Wan groaned, pulling himself out of the muck. They surveyed their surroundings. Behind them was the field. Ahead was a blank wall.
Something about the wall bothered Obi-Wan. It was tall and seamless, and curved out of sight around the fertilizer pile.
He walked closer and placed his hands against the wall. The surface was cool, like metal. When he took his hands away, to surprise he saw, just for an instant, that his touch had caused transparency. It happened in the flicker of an eyelid, to quickly for him to see inside.
"What are you doing?" Si Treemba asked impatiently. He let out the Arconan hissing sound of anxiety. "Let's go. This smell will kill us."
Si Treemba hadn't seen the wall flicker. Perhaps the Force was at work. "One moment," Obi-Wan said. "I think this might be another way out."
He felt carefully along the wall, watching as his fingers left a shimmering transparency behind. He'd never seen a metal with this quality before. Finally, he found what he was looking for - a seam. He traced it with a finger.
It was a door.
Keeping his hand flat on the door, Obi-Wan felt the energy from the living things around him, the grain and fruit, the people, the rich, organic island that was the dome.
Si Treemba gasped as the entire wall suddenly turned transparent.
....
He placed a hand against the wall. When he took it away, he saw a brief flicker of transparency.
Obi-Wan's description togged at Qui-Gon's memory. He'd read about the technological advances on Telos, the home planet of Xanatos. Recently they had been able to cover transparisteel with a special coating the rendered it opaque.
When a thermoelectrical was generated, the wall returned to normal transparency.
He pressed his whole body against the wall and it turned transparent. He could see the inner office. Still, where was the door?
Qui-Gon drew the Force in and felt it move within him like a cresting wave. The entire wall became transparent.
Credit: Jedi Apprentice-The Dark Rival
The property of thermoelectric current, is that it is generated whenever a substance changes temperature. At least, that is what I have heard since I am not very knowledgeable on that particular branch of physics, but it should be obvious that that is what is happening here. Obi Wan's touch causes transparency only in those areas where he touches it since the wall is cool in temperature( it is an air conditioned facility) and Obi Wan's body temperature would be rather noticeably higher than the temperature of the wall, heating it up for a miniscule amount of time and by a very small amount( shimmering transparency) before returning back to its original temperature, making it opaque.
Thus in order to make the entire wall transparent, Obi Wan would have to heat up the entire wall by a noticeable degree. The wall is described as being tall and curving out of sight, so it is a pretty big wall that Obi Wan has to change the temperature of. Making the feat pretty impressive.
What makes it more impressive however, is the energy output Obi Wan can give. It should be apparent that heating things up requires much more energy than in moving them through telekinesis or even lifting them. We can simply try out the exercise with a pencil or a small metal rod, where it should be obvious that we can move the object far more easily than we can heat it up on our own( with friction). Even if we use a flame, it is again pretty obvious that the energy output of the flame is far greater than the energy it requires us to move the object.
So, even though this isn't telekinesis it still requires a tremendous amount of power to pull it off, more than what telekinesis takes up. Which is what makes the feat so impressive. It is a showing of Obi Wan's sheer power manifested through temperature manipulation.
For those interested in the mathematical treatment, I have also calculated the respective energies and compared them. However, some people might not be interested in any quantitative analysis so feel free to skip it.
As said earlier, even if you don't accept the mathematical treatment, it should still be apparent that changing the temperature of objects is a pretty great showing of energy output than can be produced.
That concludes Obi Wan's impressive feats at this stage. Hope you enjoyed reading it, and constructive feedback is appreciated.
Two of the greatest Jedi Masters and Sith Lords respectively in history run the gauntlet of some of the greatest Sith Lords in history.
The gauntlet:
1. Darth Bane
2. Darth Zannah
3. Darth Cognus
4. Darth Vectivus
5. Darth Guile
6. Darth Gravid
7. Darth Gean
8. Darth Ramage
9. Darth Tenebrous's Master
10. Darth Tenebrous
11. Darth Plagueis
12. Darth Sidious as of ROTS
All characters in their primes unless otherwise stated and with their best performance level. In case they fall at Gravid, Tenebrous's Master, Guile, Vectivus or Ramage, specify the general range in the history of the Banite Order at which they fall, keeping in mind that the Banite Order had 30 Sith Lords.
All out. Morals on but fighting seriously. Fight takes place in the fields of Dantooine. How far do they get?
The highly hyped up Jedi Master who has had a short appearance in Star Wars vs the highly hyped up Sith Lord who has a short appearance in Star Wars as a whole.
Who wins?
All out, in their primes. Battle takes place on the fields of Dantooine.
So, several months ago, a new feat came out for Obi Wan( involving him telekinetically reducing numerous huge megaliths into wreckage), which really blew all of his other feats out of the park. I( and some others) went gaga over it and started throwing it around, without even interpreting it properly in our excitement( the blame for which lies on me). Needless to say, it wouldn't be long before a counter came up such as:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=644394&pagenumber=2
I will concede that my interpretation of the feat was flawed initially. I will also concede that that the grammatical structuring of the sentence which pronounced a height of 500 m is at best, way too ambiguous to conclude that the height itself is 500 m( and not the length along), and cannot be used with certainty.
That however, is the maximum extent of my concession. I must say, literally almost everything else said is both wrong and preposterous, as I have debunked previously( and will elaborate in detail in this blog).
However, reassessing the interpretation of the feat, it is actually more impressive than its previous interpretation. So, this blog's purpose is to explain the feat in detail, as well as what makes it pretty impressive. Note, that this will be a decently long blog, as the feat is incredibly impressive, but the writing shifts, so a clear explanation will have to be provided.
Firstly, there are numerous indications putting the towers as "too tall" or "great" in size:
But with the rift, there was no prospect of those on high ground sniping at the posse. The pillars of stone climbed too high, and the paths between rose too gradually, twisting and bending as they went.
Credit:Star Wars-Kenobi
Except the rock pillars were too tall for any man to scale, he saw.Credit:Star Wars-Kenobi
The clearing was a somewhat level theater surrounded by more of the great towers of stone, half a kilometer up the formation.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
I could also point to "too tall for any man to scale" and use it as basis for it being immensely tall or huge. Since people can scale hills and mountains with the correct equipment in our world, never mind the Star Wars galaxy where the technology is vastly more advanced.
Even leaving that aside, the towers could be anywhere from roughly 40 m to 100 m based on the quotes( approximately of course, and subjectively, since these are adjectives after all).
However, there is also this:
The clearing was a somewhat level theater surrounded by more of the great towers of stone, half a kilometer up the formation. Most of the day it was in shadows, but now, at mid-suns, all was exposed.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
Except at midday, the pillars shroud the clearing throughout the day.
However, even at midday:
Orrin stepped amid the megaliths. It was as bizarre a natural formation as he'd seen on Tatooine-almost designed by nature to form a labyrinth. Mountain wind whistled between the towers, which rose high enough to blot out even the midday suns. He certainly didn't lack for cover here. Getting a clean shot would be another matter.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
The towers here close to Orrin are so incredibly high, they blot out even the midday suns. To put into perspective, midday is when the sun(s) is/are directly overhead, the line of contact with a particular spot, being "perpendicular"( almost) to the ground.
Which means that the towers would have to be incredibly tall. It is easy to block the sun at dawn or dusk, since line of contact of the sun is at a noticeable angle to the ground. But, blocking it when it is at 90 degrees to the ground, and when Orrin is right in the midst of them "and" has enough free space to move around, would, require them to be tremendous in their size.
So far, the intent has been pretty clear. "Towers" in of itself, generally refer to structures that are multiple dozens of metres tall( at least). Not only have these towers been peppered with expletives describing them as very tall in of itself( obviously putting them a lot higher than the average tower), but by the statement that they are tall enough to blot out the twin suns of Tatooine when the suns are "directly" overhead would easily put them in contention to be at the very least, the height of a very tall building. Skyscrapers as we call them here.
But, there is also this:
What remained of the clan now hid, like the coward sun, among The Pillars. Legend held that a giant had repeatedly struck the mountains with a dagger here; some said it was the younger sun himself, flailing against his brother. Whatever the explanation, the landscape was unreal. Natural stone columns and crumbling obelisks climbed to the sky, some topped by precariously perched boulders. A maze of narrow passageways crisscrossed among the towers. Some led to caverns, some led nowhere. A clearing amid the tall rocks provided enough room for a cramped campground around a sacred well; banthas and Sand People alike clumped in the craggy stomach of the Jundland.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
The notion of them roughly matching skyscrapers in height is validated when the towers are being literally stated to climb to the sky here. The entire landscape is described as "unreal" solely due to the sheer height of these towers.
But it is actually the part where legend has "the mountains being stabbed by a giant with a dagger, creating the pillars" which clearly puts the height of these towers, from the perspective of the Tuskens, as mountain level in height. The sheer size of the towers and their height was so unreal to them, they made up legends about a giant stabbing the mountains with a huge dagger, to account for the creation of the Pillars. From this perspective, obviously the narrow passageways forming a "labyrinth" would be accounted for, by the stabbing of the mountains. The rest, would be the towers, mountain level in height.
In fact, the towers are so "high" the natives/Tuskens even have Legends about them being the "younger sun" or whatever, flailing in the sky. Essentially speaking, if the Tuskens are actually "deifying" the towers here due to their size, it's a pretty good bet that they are indeed, incredibly high, easily as high as mountains.
For the actual feat itself:
A cracking sound emanated from above. Reflexively, Orrin pointed his blasters upward. He'd been pounced on by Kenobi before-but the man wouldn't get the drop on him again.
Except the rock pillars were too tall for any man to scale, he saw. Then, suddenly, he heard another sickening snap, and a knife-shaped slab that had balanced for eons slid off the formation, plummeting toward him.
Orrin leapt forward just before the massive chunk of stone stabbed the ground where he'd stood. Above, a fissure appeared in another stone tower. And another. Orrin cast his terrified eyes up and across the long rows of stone columns. This wasn't a groundquake-by-bantha. This was something unreal-as if something invisible was pushing against the stones!
He ran forward, blasters still clutched in his hands but his arms bent to shield his face from the rain of dust. Pebbles came down, and then chunks sheared off, striking all around.
Orrin coughed as nuggets pelted his back. Another huge shard struck just ahead, and then another, behind.
He screamed. "What's going on?"
Orrin looked up as a shadow fell over him.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
First off, after throwing the massive chunk of stone( obviously he aimed it such that Orrin would be able to escape, he had no intent of hurting Orrin here), Obi Wan causes "fissures" in all of the towers in the vicinity of Orrin, near or far. In of itself this is really impressive, because fissures are defined as:
"A long, narrow opening or line of breakage made by cracking or splitting, especially in rock or earth." And as "Split or crack (something) to form a long, narrow opening."
They are used to refer to things like this:
And given the height of the towers, this essentially means he had cracked a huge( majority of) portion of each and every one of them( the towers). Already this makes it a great feat, but:
He ran forward, blasters still clutched in his hands but his arms bent to shield his face from the rain of dust. Pebbles came down, and then chunks sheared off, striking all around.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
We can clearly see that, due to the cracks, a rain of sand dust was falling on Orrin. Then, pebbles. Which is a clear indication that the cracks were "widening". All at the same time. Given that at that particular instant, the towers are still upright, this means that Obi Wan was pulling them apart with telekinesis. All at the same time.
Now:
Above, a fissure appeared in another stone tower. And another. Orrin cast his terrified eyes up and across the long rows of stone columns. This wasn't a groundquake-by-bantha. This was something unreal-as if something invisible was pushing against the stones!
He ran forward, blasters still clutched in his hands but his arms bent to shield his face from the rain of dust. Pebbles came down, and then chunks sheared off, striking all around.
Orrin coughed as nuggets pelted his back. Another huge shard struck just ahead, and then another, behind.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
The towers were then sheared into chunks, and they were "striking all around", in the next instant. The lower ground is riddled with dust and pebbles obviously due to the entire environment of the towers being destroyed, and due to the chunks sheared from the towers flying everywhere.
So, given the size of the towers as I have elaborated on, the fact that Obi Wan tears all the towers into chunks, and then has these chunks flying around every where, striking all around, I leave the judgment of the sheer impressiveness of the feat to you.
To summarize:
1. Obi Wan caused fissures( huge cracks) in all of the towers in the area.
2. Obi Wan sheared the towers into chunks, and then simultaneously, causes all of these chunks to strike around the place.
The narration then shifts, so on scene, further details aren't revealed. Off scene however, makes it even more impressive.
A long distance away, the sounds of Obi Wan wrecking the place is heard as thunder:
Thunder sounded in the rocks to the west. Mullen glared at his sister. "What in the blazes is going on over-".
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
Again, a large distance away, and outside the forest of megaliths, A'Yark( A'Sharad Hett's aunt, apparently) is spellbound by the cloud of dust:
As the crowd of children clutched at her robes, A'Yark lowered her weapon and looked to the west. A cloud of gray dust was rising into the air above the standing stones. A'Yark, who moments before had been in a blood rage, seemed spellbound.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
She refers to it as a monstrous cloud of dust:
The other Tuskens had seen Ben's defense-had seen the monstrous cloud he raised in The Pillars, had seen the corpse of the krayt. There had to be some reason these powerful figures kept arriving amid the Sand People.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
Bear in mind, that she observes this "monstrous cloud" of dust from outside the Pillars, which means that a "monstrous cloud" of dust, rose above the forest of remaining megaliths, which are mountain level in height.
Thus the sheer scope of what Obi Wan did here, should be apparent. He had destroyed the place so thoroughly, producing as a "by product", such a cloud of dust that, when observed outside the forest of incredibly tall megaliths, appeared as a "monstrous cloud of dust".
That isn't even what is most impressive though. What makes it a top tier telekinetic feat is this:
Annileen stared, uncomprehending, at the rising dust. She knew she was in the heart of Tusken territory, and that she should follow Veeka to the safety of the posse. But Ben was still here, and so was Orrin-and something big had happened. "Was it an avalanche?" she asked as the dust climbed. "Is Ben in trouble?"
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
The extent of the power he had unleashed here, is apparent when people compare the "apparent" damage done, to that of an avalanche. Bear in mind, that Annileen( Obi Wan's girlfriend in this novel) still hasn't observed the true extent of the damage he has done.
On a last note, this particular incident, has been used to downplay this feat( in the site posted above), in a baffling appeal to intent here:
It went for Ben and the Tusken child first, lashing out with its mighty tail. Orrin threw his arm in front of his face, petrified. He looked out to see Ben duck quickly, pushing the child to the ground as he did. The pillar the tail struck shattered, its pieces plummeting toward the man and child at its base. Ben started to move again. To grab the youngling, Orrin thought-
-but instead, Ben thrust his arms high. The rubble halted in midair, as if collected in an invisible basin. Orrin looked at it in awe. And then looked back at Ben, mesmerized. Ben's face strained from the effort, but he gritted his teeth and gave a shove to the air. Half a ton of collapsing stone tipped harmlessly away from the prone Tusken child.
Orrin gawked. The krayt lunged.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
Far, far from it being a negative spot on Obi Wan, it in fact is a great "feat" for him. Before I get to that, it is worthy to note that the attempt to equate this to the feat and put the latter in a negative light is just, really, bad. There is literally no logic to it. It could just as well be that Obi Wan was drained from performing his previous feat( he wasn't but just for argument), and struggled slightly with this one. In no way does that negate his previous feat.
Firstly, the notion that Obi Wan is strained to Tk "half a ton" is ridiculous and is debunked in the book itself:
Just after the eopie-riding male had plucked the young female from the racing dewback-an impressive feat, to be certain-the out-of-control creature had tripped in a hole and flipped over, throwing the woman who was riding it. She should have been crushed by the dewback-but instead of falling on her, the beast had been caught by the air itself and actually hovered there, bobbing, for a second. It was as if the world itself had rejected the mad thing. Then it tumbled once in midair and fell away at an angle, coming to rest just shy of the woman's body.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
The dewback is racing along at a very high pace. Obi Wan, without so much as moving a finger or even blinking, stops it in a second, completely negating its kinetic energy, and holds it in the air, suspended for a brief amount of time.
http://www.starwars.com/databank/dewback
Dewbacks can be 5 m long and are 2 m high. Pretty massive. Significantly larger than a bull, and a bull weighs more than a "ton". Meaning the dewback is easily several tons in weight.
So, a pretty blatant contradiction?
It went for Ben and the Tusken child first, lashing out with its mighty tail. Orrin threw his arm in front of his face, petrified. He looked out to see Ben duck quickly, pushing the child to the ground as he did. The pillar the tail struck shattered, its pieces plummeting toward the man and child at its base. Ben started to move again. To grab the youngling, Orrin thought-
-but instead, Ben thrust his arms high. The rubble halted in midair, as if collected in an invisible basin. Orrin looked at it in awe. And then looked back at Ben, mesmerized. Ben's face strained from the effort, but he gritted his teeth and gave a shove to the air. Half a ton of collapsing stone tipped harmlessly away from the prone Tusken child.
Orrin gawked. The krayt lunged.
Credit: Star Wars-Kenobi
No. The notion itself arises, because the finer details are overlooked. "Half a ton" of stone is the stone that is falling "only on the Tusken child". That piece of stone is only large enough to potentially harm the Tusken child, not all of the stone that Obi Wan had collected.
An entire section has been devoted to just how massive the towers are, and Obi Wan had collected all of the chunks of an entire tower in his force basin, not just that "one" chunk.
It is also preposterous as to how the weight of the entire tower is somehow equal to half a ton, or 500 kg. It is literally ridiculous. Assuming a rectangular block of water without a container( assuming "water" could be made to conform in that shape without a container), a block which is 2m*0.5m*0.5m weighs half a ton.
That is, a rectangular block of water roughly the size of an adult human( larger of course, because of the filler volume), weighs half a ton. So, just to put into perspective, the "half a ton" is in reference to just a small piece of rock( which is much denser than water, and has much more weight per unit volume) which would have harmed the Tusken child, not the entirety of the supermassive tower that Obi Wan collected in his force basin and shoved away. This should be pretty obvious. The half a ton is referenced just in respect to the debris related to the Tusken child, not anything else.
As to why it is impressive? The sheer height of the tower for one, the entirety of which Obi Wan stopped mid-fall. But his previous feat overshadows this one. Or at least it seems so.
On reading the text, it is apparent that Obi Wan is also confronting a Krayt dragon. Literally the next instant after Obi Wan shoves the debris away, he is locked into a struggle with the Krayt. That means that he effectively has just a point fraction of a second to perform the feat. A point fraction of a second to stop a supermassive tower from collapsing, and shove the debris away. Obviously he would be strained.
A bodybuilder can lift a bed frame pretty easily. However, he does take a couple or so seconds to properly adjust his position, his muscles and then lift. If let's say, he were to be attacked by an intruder, locked in an intense combat, and he gets a reprieve of just a fraction of a second, and has to lift the bed frame for some reason, yeah, he would obviously show strain. Because he is using much lesser power than he can summon if he just had that second to react properly, and his body is being taxed for it.
Characters in Star Wars can't summon enormous amounts of power, right in the midst of combat. We don't see them doing so, in most cases. Why? Because in the midst of combat, characters don't have more than fractions of seconds to react. They cannot gather even a small amount of the power they could do normally because not only their attention is divided, but also because they have a very small window of time.
Obviously this is a high level feat, so given that he has much lesser time to react than usual, yeah, he would be strained.
One of the greatest Jedi in history runs a gauntlet of famous Jedi Masters from the long past.
The Gauntlet:
1. Vrook Lamar
2. Atris
3. Vandar Tokare
4. Odan Urr
5. Vodo Siosk Baas
6. Thon
7. Arca Jeth
If you think that the gauntlet is out of order, don't elaborate, but simply say that he would lose to an earlier iteration, but win against a greater iteration( specifying the numbers) in the gauntlet.
For those unaware( as many would be, after all, this version of Obi Wan has never been used before), Obi Wan as of 17 years of age has the following standing to his name:
Qui-Gon was hoping that the physical activity would help his Padawan release some tension - and piece things together in his mind. Regardless, focusing on something entirely different would be a good change of pace.
Obi-Wan seemed reluctant as they exited the building. But once he was outside and facing his Master, his eyes flashed with an intensity that surprised Qui-Gon. The young Jedi ignited his lightsaber, and Qui-Gon did the same.
The two Jedi circled each other slowly with their lightsabers raised, as if in a dance. Obi-Wan moved gracefully, his eyes locked on Qui-Gon's. It was as if he were challenging him to do something, to make the first move.
Qui-Gon did. He brought his lightsaber down in a powerful strike - once, twice, three times. Obi-Wan was there to block each blow. The graceful arcs he made with his blade were confident and accurate. His eyes never left his Master's face.
Qui-Gon suddenly realized that his Padawan's lightsaber skills had improved significantly in the past months. His physical energy was exceptional - young and true. Obi-Wan was fighting like a Jedi Knight.
Not to mention trusting his instincts, Qui-Gon thought wryly. He suddenly had the feeling that one day the boy would beat him. And that such a day might not be so far away.
The two Jedi dodged and weaved with incredible speed, their ignited blue and green blades blurs of energy in the Vorzyd night. But behind them pulsed something even stronger-Jedi will. Obi-Wan wanted to be treated as an equal, Qui-Gon knew. But while he had grownup a lot in the last four years, he was only seventeen. He still had much to learn.
With each stroke, Qui-Gon pushed Obi-Wan farther back. It was not terribly difficult. But even as he advanced on his Padawan, Qui-Gon had the feeling that Obi-Wan was allowing him to do it - that the Padawan was somehow in control.
He was. In a flash of blinding green light Obi-Wan swung, ducked, and turned. His blue eyes flashed and a small smile turned up the corners of his lips. He now had the upper hand.
Qui-Gon was accustomed to this kind of haughty strategy coming from an enemy. But it was slightly unnerving to see it in his own Padawan learner. And yet it had worked.
As if picking up on his Master's thoughts, Obi-Wan stepped up the pace an additional notch. Now he was swinging repeatedly and with phenomenal strength, pushing Qui-Gon in a wide arc around the courtyard. His green blade was a bright blur in the darkness, and his entire body moved with certainty and empowerment.
Qui-Gon had to concentrate - hard - to keep ahead of his Padawan. They had fought side by side often enough for him to be able to guess what Obi-Wan would do next. Of course, the same was true of Obi-Wan. And once in a while the young Jedi blocked a blow so quickly that Qui-Gon knew the boy had known exactly what was coming.
With a flash and a buzz, the lightsabers met in a raised cross. Both men were breathless, sweating from the exertion. This had been no lighthearted spar.
Obi-Wan looked up at his Master, his eyes bright and intense. It was clear that he had not actually won the match, but that he had stated his case firmly. Something had changed between them. Obi-Wan had taken yet another step toward becoming a Jedi Knight, and Qui-Gon was closer than ever to letting him go.
Credit: Jedi Apprentice-The Threat Within
So, which Jedi Apprentice wins this encounter?
Rules:
1. All out fight.
2. In character, but fighting seriously.
3. Fight takes place in the fields of Dantooine
Round 1: Darsha is her normal self in her prime.
Round 2: Darsha is as of her state in Oneness, in her prime.
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