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why is fanboism regarded as an insult? i still don't get it? being fan of something isn't actually bad,just because some uneducated peoples do something stupid dosen't necessarily mean the whole fanbase is bad.

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@kalder_ridley said:

@scotchbear: this is multi-galaxy+++ durability?

@kalder_ridley:

where was it ever stated that it was just a laser? and in the anime(the canon version) it was retconned to base goku. goku was alredy in base form before that, and as far as i remember, nothing was stated! it could be an attack, that can pierce through anything, like an atomic level attack that has nothing to do with an actuall durability.

@marc_55:

well, nothing is changed, you still bring up your BS oppinion here, yet you still can't debunk a single word i said. good luck mate.

@slimj87d:

depending on which version of tien we are talking about, he dosen't even need any of his abilities to beat naruto, if you can accept the fact that tien=saiyan saga vegeta then he would easily stomp and that is the problem my fraind, peoples just can't exept the fact that he is more powerful than those old saiyans.

@purpledeadragon:

you totaly missunderstod what i meant..there is definatly a higher possibility that it is easily above the speed of sound, just as you said but the exact speed haven't been confirmed in the actual manga, it can be way faster but we don't know. all i did was, disagree when he said it works at the speed of light. also no! naruto isn't faster than light, not even close though he at full power is or could be much faster than the raikage but we still don't know if his speed are multiplied along with his power.. that is all we can scale him from and defintly he isn't 3000 times faster than the raikage, defintly not, even sakura could somehow fight along side them and sakura is someone like tsunade who flat out implaied, she would get blitzed by the raikage

@purpledeadragon:

i didn't meant, "literally faster than sound", i am just saying that we have no confirmations on how fast that attack works, but he said it was ftl, but all i did was debunk the fact that we don't know the speed, and going by a possibility it can also be only faster than sound, no confirmation. we also can't scale it, since nobody with an actuall speed feat faild to avoid it. but i am not a downplayer since naruto is my second favorite anime. i am not going to lie,,,,to be hounest,, my fav anime is dbz and after that is one piece, naruto and deathnote. i would never downplay him, i am just debunking the peoples trying to make him look like an actuall planet buster when his absolut best feats are around moon level.

@joviolma:

Madara is not Universal

we know who said that.

Popo using the FTLightning technique is faster than Goku and Piccolo

first off,it was never stated to be a technique,it was his speed, and his speed is nowhere near goku and piccolo.

Frieza is the first confirmed planet buster, although Vegeta say that he could blow up a planet.

vegeta was also stated to be planetery in the guid line. he was stated in the manga, anime and even in the guid line.

@kikideath: @mikideze:

this guy is akira and kishimoto,

he siad, madara is universe buster

TSB are faster than light

popo was using a techniqe

picolo and goku are slower than popo.

but he has no proof to any statment he made. that is who i am arguing with. what would you say boys, is he worth it? i don't think so.

@mikideze:

what would you expect from dbz haters they were never original to begin with