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@mp13: I came across your question while google-searching it myself. From what I can find, they haven't been involved past GL:New Guardians 40 & (pre-rebirth) GL 39, where they told Kyle they were leaving to go do good across the universe, and talked to Hal prior to his leaving the GLC (respectively). Comic Vine's appearance-listing for them has them appearing in more GL issues, but looking over a few I didn't see them (maybe they were mentioned in passing by Hal, but they were not physically in the story).

I imagine they they were essentially forgotten/written off, just so the writers could move on to introducing the guardian with the phantom ring (his name escapes me) & re-introducing Ganthet & Syad. When they recently mentioned they were the only guardians left I thought, "wait...what?? What about the ones who had guarded Volthoom??"

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@mars8254 said:

There are so many comic book shows out now you cant watch them all. That's not bad though.

DVR? (/Online)

Though personally, I don't have interest in enough of them to get back-logged. I'll give this one a shot though, in spite of the liberties taken.

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I didn't see the original topic, but in the passages, I'd say a better case was made for Magneto.

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Nooo! This is my favorite comic-show! (even more so than The Flash).

FYI: AFAIK, unless you have a Neilson "box", it doesn't matter whether your watch live or DVR or w/e - you're not getting counted. They just project the %s (of their "users") onto the greater population. It won't apply to Constantine right now, but I just read that in the near future (2015?) Neilson is going to count numbers from online sources (hopefully saving all the shows young-people love).

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If she is in the air, it is not a matter of pulling-strength vs pulling-strength, it is a matter of whether or not WW can lift Hulk (assuming lasso is "attached"). This of it like this: Say there is a 200lb, super strong, being on the ground. He is holding a cable attached to a flying helicopter. Even if he normally has the strength to match/overpower the helicopter's lift/thrust, if the helicopter is capable of lifting his 200lb weight it can just lift him off the ground. He,not capable of flying himself, no longer has leverage to "pull" on the cable. He could at best climb up the line.

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Hulk has the edge in strength and durability, while Wonder Woman has the edge in skill, speed, flight and weaponry. Since incapacitation counts as a win she really could simply hogtie him with the lasso and call it a day. He's not fast enough to stop her and he can't break it. Also the lasso has calming capabilities so that would have a reverse effect on The Hulk's whole stronger when angrier shtick.Now I know many people are going to come here and claim The Hulk wins, but I'd love to hear actual reasons and not just because he's strong because that going to cut it here when she has an answer for everything.

This makes a lot more sense than the current poll results (74% Hulk). There's nothing saying we have to stick to "the spirit" of the match-up (wherein they pound on each other). With the right strategy, WW should take this easy (based on the ways one can "win"). Given his lack of flight, she could also use the lasso to throw him into space - BFR, end of story. Fun? No. But it fits the criterion.

Even if they were dukeing it out, I think people are underestimating WW's strength. And too many have World Breaker Hulk in mind - this is World War Hulk (not as powerful as WBH). Add in WW's speed & superior fighting skills, and I think she could stand a decent chance of winning a "traditional" battle as well.

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@mrtummytumms said:

@lightsout said:

Selina & Bruce as childhood friends...WTF?! I don't get why video-versions of comics can get away with such wild changes, when that would never stand with the movie-translations of traditional book series. (It'd be like, "We're going to have had Harry have grown up with the Weasleys but they just hid magic-stuff from him until he got the letter from Hogwarts!"...fans would lose it). Granted, there is just one version of each of these book series but there are different authors & different continuities for comics.....but we don't get many opportunities to see them translated to live-action, why not use the most common/accepted characterization/continuity?

Directors (when it comes to all of the movies) usually say something to the effect of "those stories were already done in the comics, if you want them - read the comics" ....yet you would never hear anything like that with Harry Potter/Twilight/Hunger Games. They're bringing those printed story-lines to the big-screen. Hell, you don't even have to replicate the comic story-lines, just keep the same basic character-histories, characterizations, relationships, etc (ie: Batman could have a story with the Riddler that was never in the comics, but the characters have the same (real) names, backgrounds/origins, etc - so it's as if the same characters from the comics have jumped onto the screen, rather than pale imitations who just happen to share the same name).

Well DC pride themselves in their Multiverse. Arrow and Flash have been pretty much confirmed to be in their own universe which is why things are different than the comics such as Oliver facing Batman villains. Gotham is pretty much the same way. In the Gotham universe Bruce and Selena are childhood friends.

I don't understand how people can accept Batman as a Cowboy, Pirate or even Superman but they refuse to accept the possibility that a tv show about him may not be the same universe as the comics.

I addressed this (the bold part). (And no, I wouldn't want him as any of those in a live-action).

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Selina & Bruce as childhood friends...WTF?! I don't get why video-versions of comics can get away with such wild changes, when that would never stand with the movie-translations of traditional book series. (It'd be like, "We're going to have had Harry have grown up with the Weasleys but they just hid magic-stuff from him until he got the letter from Hogwarts!"...fans would lose it). Granted, there is just one version of each of these book series but there are different authors & different continuities for comics.....but we don't get many opportunities to see them translated to live-action, why not use the most common/accepted characterization/continuity?

Directors (when it comes to all of the movies) usually say something to the effect of "those stories were already done in the comics, if you want them - read the comics" ....yet you would never hear anything like that with Harry Potter/Twilight/Hunger Games. They're bringing those printed story-lines to the big-screen. Hell, you don't even have to replicate the comic story-lines, just keep the same basic character-histories, characterizations, relationships, etc (ie: Batman could have a story with the Riddler that was never in the comics, but the characters have the same (real) names, backgrounds/origins, etc - so it's as if the same characters from the comics have jumped onto the screen, rather than pale imitations who just happen to share the same name).

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I have not cared for any of the past live-action superhero TV shows, but after seeing the pilot again (:D) last night, I must say I really dig this show. And after that "what's coming this season" preview, I'm very excited.

@ducey13: My thoughts exactly on Wells (he could have been looking at the paper to "confirm" he set Barry on the path of being a hero, and there was even a little flash of yellow energy around him when the scene ended - I didn't pick that part up until my 2nd viewing & it pretty much "confirmed" that he's got to be Thawne).

Perhaps they threw "Eddie Thawne" in there as a red-herring (say, using a different first name to "blend in") for comic-readers who know the names (& already knew what the "mysterious thing" was that killed Mrs Allen); and making him not very likable adds to the idea that he's the villain. If Wells is Eobard, then perhaps they'll say Eddie is his ancestor?

Oh, & definitely agree Flash's RG is among the best. On paper they sound goofy (very "themed") but writers have made it work!

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*stands & applauds...literally*

If I may quote myself from an old thread (on the Superman Forum), answering the question of "Why Do People Like Superman?"

About his character - I like that despite being a demi-god, in his own mind he's such a regular guy. To quote Batman from Superman/Batman

It is a remarkable dichotomy. In many ways, Clark is the most human of us all. Then... he shoots fire from the skies and it is difficult not to think of him as a god. And how fortunate we all are that it does not occur to him.

It's true, Clark is the most human of everyone. He may not have the obvious tragedy of Batman, but he is not without his worries about those he loves. He is an inspiration. As a hero, he "saves people" (in simple terms) because he has the ability to & believes it's "the right thing to do". Not because he was victim to tragedy himself - not that that's bad, we can only expect people to take drastic actions under such circumstances, but because Superman goes BEYOND that expectation, that's what's inspirational. He could make tons of money with his abilities, yet he chooses a low-paying career that lets him give a voice to the un-heard while he's not in costume. Superman is what we're not- likely what we can never be (the level of selflessness, etc), but sometimes it's nice to have that ideal to inspire us & give us hope (for ourselves & our society). (Also, as someone who escapes to a fantasy world to enjoy himself, Clark's seemingly perfect personal life (friends (both super & non), family, romantic interest, etc) is also an inspiration/ideal).