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In melee, Legolas has every advantage sans maybe skill (which I could see being argued either way tbh). Aren't Elves naturally stronger, faster, more durable, and more agile than men? And by a fair margin at that?

They are not stronger or at least, Legolas is described as weaker, physically, than Boromir and Aragorn :

« Well,' said Boromir, 'when heads are at a loss bodies must serve, as we say in my country. The strongest of us must seek a way. See! Though all is now snow-clad, our path, as we came up, turned about that shoulder of rock down yonder. It was there that the snow first began to burden us. If we could reach that point, maybe it would prove easier beyond. It is no more than a furlong off, I guess.'

'Then let us force a path thither, you and I!’ said Aragorn. »
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« Legolas watched them for a while with a smile upon his lips, and then he turned to the others. »

« The strongest must seek a way, say you? But I say: let a ploughman plough, but choose an otter for swimming, and for running light over grass and leaf or over snow-an Elf. »

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« [Boromir] lifted up the hobbit. 'Cling to my back! I shall need my arms' he said and strode forward. Aragorn with Merry came behind. Pippin marvelled at his strength, seeing the passage that he had already forced with no other tool than his great limbs. Even now, burdened as he was, he was widening the track for those who followed, thrusting the snow aside as he went. »

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Sauron, in the Third Age, does not have a physical form that Wolverine can harm in any way.

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@leito: it is in the Silmirilian, and unfinished tales/works, and I really don't feel like finding the quote

Don't bother, they don't exist. At least not in the Silmarillion, the Unfinished Tales, the Akallabeth or the Lord of the Rings.

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I would say Sauron, because he out classes the night king in nearly everything, he is a many thousands of years old Maia spirit, who was given power by the dark one Melkor (Morgoth). Several of his feats include, but are not limited to, causing meteors to fall, bringing back to life his most faithful servants, rendering himself almost virtually unkillable.

Think he was the Necromancer of Dol Guldur, he can also raise the dead to his command, so what's to say that he couldn't just, theoretically take over the Night King's Army. Food for though.

But even if the Night King can resurrect Sauron's forces, than Sauron can easily send down a flock of flaming rockss from space crashing into the Night King and his forces.

All in all Sauron wins ten times out of ten

Are there quotes stating that Sauron caused meteors to fall and raised the dead ?

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Likely dies at Amon Hen, if not Moria, he's definitely not keeping up with Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli in their 3 day non stop run.

Yup, only Gendry could do it !

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@spambot: Thanks. Forgot about that.

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3) If Surfer and Thor are Star level. Then Thanos would need to be thousands of times more durable than them to be solar system level. Our solar system has 8 main planets and over 700,000 minor planets. Thanos is not tanking an attack that can destroy all of that.

"star level" or "solar system" lever are basically the same (it actually only depends on the mass of the star or stars if it's a binary system). The Sun accounts for 99.86% of the total mass of the Solar System. The planets account for most of the rest (that is 0.14%...) and the dwarf planets, comets and asteroids are completely negligible.

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@optimuspalm: you are perfectly allowed to think that Glamdring is stronger than regular swords (that is also what I think) but it is never stated or shown in the books or in the movies. Whereas its magical ability of glowing in the presence of orcs is documented in the Hobbit and in the Fellowship of the Rings novels.

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@all-father: Glamdring was strengthened by elves using magic. But it doesnt have any magical powers (other than being stronger than regular swords).

Quite the opposite : Glamdring glows when Orcs are near but nothing suggests that it is otherwise stronger that regular swords. Sure, we can extrapolate Sting's feats (easily cutting through Giant Spider and Shelob's webs, can be "thrusted with little effort deep into a wooden beam) since they both come from Gondolin but that's pretty much it.

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@leito said:

I can imagine Syrio Forel and maybe Arya pulling that kind of stuff against random guys attacking in waves. The Giants definitely, Drogon and his brothers as well :)

1. What feats does Arya have of fighting more than 1 person? Or even just 1 person in an actual fight (so Brienne doesn't count) without an enviromental advantage (so Waif doesn't count)?

3. Likewise for Syrio, there is a big gap between beating 5 men and beating 25.

You are right, Arya or Syrio do not have a comparable feat but I can see them pulling it. The same way Darth Vader effortlessly mauling through soldiers in Rogue One was not surprising even though he did not have a similar feat before.

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I can imagine Syrio Forel and maybe Arya pulling that kind of stuff against random guys attacking in waves. The Giants definitely, Drogon and his brothers as well :)