Lance Uppercut

@inferiorego said:

"Bro"

"Douchebag"

"Pass the sunchips"

Generally Douchebag and Pass the sunchips are utilized in the same conversation. I.E. "Hey bro, pass the sunchips." "You are such a douchebag."

Juggernaut.

@All_Mighty_Beyonder said:

@Mistry_Riddler said:

Guys as said Odin is not at yet at full power,

How about the same battle without odin? ??

replace Odin by Heimdall, 5 vs 5, and 1 month prep each team, no sun dip. that will make it an even fight.

...Heimdall. Really.

@Darrius said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

Telepathy is a no go. Especially Dooku's. Hulk has been shown to be resistant to mind control on numerous occasions by more powerful psychics. And his telekinesis would have to repel a monster who continuously goes to blows with characters far out of Dooku's strength class. Even if he manages to slice Hulk, his healing factor is more than sufficient to deal with it. As for a "smart Hulk", he wouldn't require any sort of special weaponry. He'd demolish Dooku.

That doesn't fly. Dooku isn't telepathic or telekinetic; he is force-sensitive. Dooku isn't going to mind trick the Hulk, he is going to command The Force to do it. It's going to work because the force can "have a strong influence on the weak-minded." The telekinesis is the same thing. It'll work here because it isn't limited to just moving rock, beams and other inanimate objects. It can be used directly on the Hulk. The size and strength of the Hulk doesn't matter. Using The Force to choke and lift a mouse, an ordinary man, or the Hulk are all the same. Dooku isn't doing the work, The Force is.

That is why I say, Dooku is not special here. Any fully-trained Jedi or Sith Lord will win this fight almost every time. Dooku's student, such as Qui-gon, or his student's student, such as Obi-wan, or his student's, student's, student, such as Anakin, would all win this fight 99 times out of 100. Even, Asoka, his great, great grand-student would stand a chance here. But her training was incomplete the last time I saw her so she may well have gaps in her training and there lack something that she would need. But Dooku's newer student, Ventress, wins 99 times out of 100.

Then allow me to rephrase. He doesn't possess a strong enough command of The Force to influence The Hulk. No, Bruce is not at his most intelligent as The Hulk, but neither is he weak minded. It's not as though The Force has been successful. Jabba wasn't particularly bright, nor was Watto, and it's clear that the Force has no influence on them. The Hulk on the other hand is two different personalities, piled on top of each other. So until Dooku can suddenly command the force to match telepathic feats with the likes of Cable, Nate Grey, Charles Xavier, etc. I don't really see your point. He can command the force all he likes. It's not going to do much of anything.

@Darrius said:

@mk111 said:

@Darrius:

LOL, this isn;t the 70s. Hulk is a lot smarter than he used to be.

Yeah but dumb Hulk is the one who is making all the dollars on the silver screen in the 2000's.

I think that smart Hulk is an abomination and BY FAR the worst thing to ever happen to the character. Being smart while being green so fundamentally changes the character, that I really think that they are two different characters, not just an evolution of the character. Smart Hulk is worse than happy Batman, like galaxies worse. I always assume dumb Hulk unless the person I'm talking to specifies smart Hulk. I think the world agrees with me and that is why we always see dumb Hulk in the movies.

For the fight, I do think that smart Hulk is a much better match-up for a fully-trained force user if only because because being dumb, disqualifies any opponent against a well-trained Jedi/Sith. Last time I looked smart Hulk was the ruler of his own planet and as such could commission special weapons and armors for the fight.

@ShootingNova said:

Not sure if Hulk can do anything with prep. Preparation gives an advantage to Dooku, but not a massive one.

That would depend on which Hulk we are talking about wouldn't it. Smart Hulk should be able to do something in his prep time. But judging from your

@ShootingNova said:

Telekinetics and telepathy are out of the question. Dooku's level of mastery of the two are insufficient to defeat the Hulk, and Lightning won't do any permanent damage, considering the Hulk's durability and regeneration factor. The rest of Dooku's arsenal when it comes to Force power is simply outweighed by Hulk's durability and regeneration.

How do you figure that telekinetics and telepathy are out of the question? I don't get that at all. Moreover, I think it pretty much guarantees a Dooku victory, regardless of which Hulk you are talking about. Dumb Hulk is extremely weak-minded, he should be more vulnerable to mind trick. You don't have to be an all-time great force user to mind-trick the weak minded. Dooku should be more than able to use it on the Hulk. Also I see no reason why the Hulk couldn't be force choked. He would heal from the choke. But then if he was choked all the way out would he revert back to Banner. Also if you concede that the Hulk could be cut by a lightsaber, then why couldn't the Dooku decapitate the Hulk while using the force to choke him.

Telepathy is a no go. Especially Dooku's. Hulk has been shown to be resistant to mind control on numerous occasions by more powerful psychics. And his telekinesis would have to repel a monster who continuously goes to blows with characters far out of Dooku's strength class. Even if he manages to slice Hulk, his healing factor is more than sufficient to deal with it. As for a "smart Hulk", he wouldn't require any sort of special weaponry. He'd demolish Dooku.

@Vance Astro said:

@Lance Uppercut said:

@Vance Astro: Who's in your top ten presently?

1.Nas 2.Jay-Z 3.DOOM 4.Kanye 5.Lupe 6.Phonte 7.Joe Budden 8.Raekwon 9.Median 10.Tyler the Creator

Love them. Almost got tickets to Rae last year. I've never really enjoyed Nas, and I only liked a few tracks off of Lasers.

@Vance Astro: Who's in your top ten presently?

@SoA: To be fair, all the bars I go to (I say bars, but it's only one, and they know what I drink) are smart enough to have a cab company on call.

@SoA said:

if one is responsible one should be allowed to partake, its that simple

What if I'm completely irresponsible? What if, in the comfort of my own home, I drink so much that I can no longer remember who or what I was angry at until the next morning in a clarifying haze of cigarette smoke from the second marlboro red I've had in a ten minute time period?