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Could Matt or Widow replicate his helicopter pull?

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@bladeoffury:

They do it in training sessions. In this case BP actually had to put Clint down, and stopping his own attacks before making contact obviously wouldn't do that. So if BP had no intention to land those slashes, why did he use them? And why did he extend his claws in the first place?

Clint did have a bo staff so BP might have extended them to slash through them, or as a threat, but fair point

Looks like he hits him twice, one of them only being an elbow, and Clint is nowhere to be seen for the rest of the airport battle. For all we know, the first elbow already took him out of the fight and the kick was overkill.

He lands 3 hits. The elbow and two kicks in the air - both to the head. And he was still conscious and rolling in pain afterwards. BP was clearly holding back

It still applies because the hits that do land on BP won't affect him. Normally, hitting your opponent will hurt and disorient him, but Clint didn't have that luxury.

True, but wouldn't you agree that BP was treating Hawkeye's hits like they'd hurt him played a role in Hawkeye lasting against him?

The scene cuts away as soon as the kick makes contact, perhaps he was ragdolled.

BP also parries a blow from Clint without affecting him just before.

You're saying it's not a great feat because Clint is pretty good himself? If so, how do Clint's other good feats change the impressiveness of this one?

Okay that was pretty stupid in hindsight.

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@bladeoffury:

BP needed to get through Clint as fast as possible since Bucky was getting away, which is why he extended his claws and slashed at Clint's face. He was clearly willing to mutilate or kill.

He probably would have stopped his claws right before making contact, as heroes do in films. BP's still a hero So for all intents and purposes, BP might as well have been punching.

Imagine a match with two equally skilled fighters, except one of them can one-shot the other,

Not if he's holding back. Hawkeye's not even KO'd after Panther breaks out of the hold and hits him thrice.

be unfazed by the other's best hits,

More skilled or not, Black Panther was dodging, parrying, and blocking hits from Hawkeye for some reason so this doesn't apply

ragdoll him through the sheer force of his attacks even when they're blocked,

Logically, yes, but this strength doesn't always translate. If it did, Hawkeye would've been floored when he blocked BP's kick with his bo staff.

and instantly overpower him in a grapple. This match wouldn't last 10 seconds

It was a little over 30 seconds and that's not that crazy considering Clint's not too far from Widow IIRC, he had the reach advantage, and BP was holding back while Clint could go all out.

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@bladeoffury: I think it's a bit faulty to put Clint above characters like Cap, Thanos and Thor based off him surviving and having the upper hand for a split second in a fight where BP was holding back. I could see a legitimate case for Natasha though based off her performances against Bucky, but both times she had the element of surprise, so even then...

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@heroofmandalore:

Besides Wolverine and maybe Iron Fist none of the street tiers can harm her. Speed is an issue but it’s not like she’s gonna get statued. Thor himself is a bullet timer and he got wrecked by Hela and she’s even reacted to lightning on screen so I don’t see speed drawing out the fight for more than a couple minutes

Colossus and Thing should wreck. I don’t even have to look up scans to know they’ve traded blows with Hulk tier characters and that’s >>> MCU

Agreed on Cyclops. One good blast can take her out like Thor’s biggest lightning, but he’s squishy

Not sure where Carnage is at nowadays, but he can win if he possesses her. I don’t think he’d be able to cut her

Agreed on the last 4

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Stalemate. Tony can’t harm him without blasts .

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Cap curled the weight of the first one in CW, I have no idea how people are saying he stops there

Second one, he's not crushing it, but he can tear it off the hinges based off his Avengers feat where he does something similar

Gets crushed at 3

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