@superproherohunter: As stated on the topic they are jugded by their own capabilities and in their own universe. For me Johan without having any power is a better manipulator than Loki. Loki uses his powers a lot of times, sometimes against powerfull characters sometimes against characters who are street level but some of the more powerfull characters can resist. Johan on the other hand can controll and manipulate everyone around him and that without any difference if adult or child, intelligent or dumb. So that would put him IMO above Loki.