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Top tiers in Saint Seiya such as Hades were multi-planetary at best and did not even have city-block level physical durability. Without the hype, the Saint Seiya characters lose a lot of fights on these forums just to physical attacks which was proven to be their big glaring weakness i.e. Hades (a God tier SS character) almost died by being slammed into a wall. Anyway, that one panel for Satan would indicate he is above anything in Saint Seiya.

Well if you think that wall almost killed Hades then i guess Goku would have rock level durability because he gets punched into them and its obviously the rocks and buildings that damaged him. any sane person would laugh at this.

Excuse me, are you in the right thread sir? You just brought up a character not mentioned in this thread.

Take your dumb butthurt to another thread or just join Seth's discord it fits you.

You are the one who seems upset over Hades's poor durability showings. If he was as strong and durable as you think, he would have went through that wall completely if Saint Seiya characters have physicals as high as you guys hype them up i.e. if he was hit anywhere near light speed (and not 60 mph as shown). Instead, he barely cracked through it and is reeling in pain. Hades needs a chiropractor after that, not a fight with Satan.

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@kothoga: no, just no.

that's not right at all.

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Way out of context.

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Did you guys objectively evaluate all the evidence or have a conversation with Tite Kubo what his intent was with that statement?

The scans indicate that was a Universal attack based on what the author is saying alone, but some visuals were provided to assess the power. The entire sky went black (previously Sunny with clouds) indicating it had effects far beyond the Earth. The visible spectrum (previously in color) became warped to black & white in the anime. It was used to one shot a being who was above a Universal-level Soul King. Even if the attack only busted a street lamp, if the author says it is Universal level attack that is all that is needed to assess it's power.

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Top tiers in Saint Seiya such as Hades were multi-planetary at best and did not even have city-block level physical durability. Without the hype, the Saint Seiya characters lose a lot of fights on these forums just to physical attacks which was proven to be their big glaring weakness i.e. Hades (a God tier SS character) almost died by being slammed into a wall. Anyway, that one panel for Satan would indicate he is above anything in Saint Seiya.

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How are they even beating just Shunsui + Unohana + Yamamoto? Yamamoto burns them all with AOE as hot as the core of the Sun. Unohana melts everyone on the field with her AOE-melting Bankai while simultaneously restoring herself and allies back to life instantly. Shunsui reality warps up multiple wins for the team with his hax Bankai. The other captains can at least provide diversions while the big league captains clean up the field.

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@flashingsabre: I m curious. Who has ever claimed " universal ichigo "?

The author kind of did, right here. The panel literally stated Ichigo will return everything to nothing. Taken verbatim, this would put Ichigo comfortably at a Universal level and possibly multi-versal depending on the author's definition of everything.

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Magneto is a confirmed planet buster and since Earth's core is 99% metal he destroys Earth with the utmost of ease. Naruto is a possible moon-level character. The moon is what, 1.2% mass of the Earth? He'll never get to Magneto-level.

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It won't be a stomp when that guy who thinks Thing is herald-level gets here. Without the hyping Thing & Rhino to herald level because they smacked around an AFK Silver Surfer, they both get beaten quickly by Hercules here.

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One punch and Hades ends up smashed against a wall again. It in-character for Dio to time stop and punch Hades full force into a wall; he's beaten another character just like that. Prove Hades does any better than this guy:

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Hades isn't even Marvel Brick level in physical durability by feats. No offense, but Heaven Ascension Dio isn't needed. Basic Dio with The World soloes him with the utmost of ease. Hades has no feats against time manipulation therefore he gets frozen in time and one-shot with superior physical force. Regular Dio punched holes in characters with better physicals than Hades. Basically, the ability to stop time soloes most of the Saint Seiya verse since all of them have zero feats against time freezing. Now Heaven Ascension Dio has a stand with reality warping in addition to his time stopping.

Look guys, hyping Hades to levels he never earned is fine and all, but nothing mentioned above proves he can resist time stop, reality warping or being one-shot by any version of Dio.

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Zoom was heavily wanked back in the day. The Zoom fans who were heavily obsessed DC fanboys were saying Zoom could blitz KO characters like Galactus, Tyrant, Thanos and Odin all at once.