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I welcome our new Disney overlords. If Disney world domination is the price of getting all of Marvel's characters under one roof, it is a price I am willing to pay. There are still plenty of other studios out there. Hopefully, this will cause them to think big and create new IPs and take bigger chances to compete.

Hats off to Marvel for doing so well without their full complement of characters. Their universe just got a whole lot bigger. It actually gives me hope for the DCEU. If they had trouble keeping up before, maybe it will make them rethink their strategy. Maybe they'll scrap those planned "one off/spinoff" movies. Take it slow, build up the Trinity, don't do a Flashpoint movie. Anything can happen right?

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The first X-Men came out in 2000. It's time for a reboot, and not the soft reboot Fox did where they jump ahead 10 years at a time and the characters don't look any older (don't get me started on the X-Men timeline and how Fassbender and McAvoy in 1983 turn into to McKellan and Stewart by 1986, thank you Jean Grey flashback in Last Stand... *shakes head*)

I never liked how much focus Wolverine, Magneto and Mystique got. Wolverine is awesome, I get it, but I want a team focus in the new movies. Let Cyclops and Storm get some shine. Do Rogue right. Have them working together as a team to solve their issues. Magneto is great, but the X-Men have a ton of villains. Let's get some new bad guys.

Other things:

Actual costumes. They don't have to be 100% accurate especially the more ridiculous ones, but give me something to work with.

Get the tone right. Marvel can do serious (Winter Soldier). Mutants lead hard lives. I think they'll get it right.

Secret Wars or X-Men vs. Avengers one day.

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A bloodlusted Iron Fist is extremely dangerous. I'd say things start to get difficult around Wolverine. Either stops at 7, 9 or 10 but could potentially clear.

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I like Bats, I really do. But in a random encounter, key word random, he's going to lose to Iron Fist.

I knew Iron Fist was a beast but reading through the thread really schooled me to his more impressive feats. Due to Batman's intelligence, craftiness, his sheer force of will and my respect for the character I'd give him 3/10. His only chance is to disappear as soon as the match starts and catch Danny unaware somehow (not even sure how, with Danny's crazy reaction time and senses, not to mention chi healing). If he tries H2H he's toast.

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Round 1 goes to team one for a majority. While team 2 are no slouches in h2h I think they are just outdone here with maybe DD putting up the best fight.

Round 2 I give team one the slight edge at 6/10. Team two has a chance though if they can keep them at range. But I think Bats team will close the gap and use their gear and h2h to finish the fight.

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@laflux: It was my intention to make the battle as even as possible. I figured even if the Heart shaped herb made BP slightly superhuman that's not much of a big bump from peak. I figured the consensus on the vine was that Bruce had the better H2H (but now I see that's debatable) and that the better physicals would be cancelled out by the better H2H.

So should I edit the first post to take out the herb? Or maybe just the both peak human part?

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#7  Edited By KingOfWakanda

It was my impression that the heart shaped herb made BP peak human and not low level super. Pretty much on Cap's level physically.

Always considered Cap, Bats and pre-KOTD panther to be even in physicals with slight variation. If I'm wrong please school me.

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I don't think this exact scenario has been done before but apologies if it has. Trying to take out all bias (see username) and make an even playing field for both.

Battle Rules:

- In Character

- No armor or gadgets for either combatant, i.e. H2H only

- Pre and New 52 Batman; Pre KOTD Panther w/ heart shaped herb (both peak human)

- Both Characters have general knowledge of each other

- Battlefield - Wakanda. Bruce is facing T'Challa in ritual combat for the mantle of Black Panther. Don't know why just because.

I think this is fairly even. One may have a slight edge in H2H, the other is fighting for his homeland.

Thoughts?

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@k4tzm4n: Thanks man. Been lurking for a couple weeks and was bored at work and decided to throw my 2 cents in.

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I voted too close to call. Thought Thor initially but there have been some good arguments for Faora. So why not vote for her? Not enough feats. Thor has been in 3 films and has some very good strength and durability feats, not as good as in the comics, but still.

I'm just not sure they could hurt each other. And I'm throwing Faora's knife out because we don't know if it could cut Thor. Remember that Thor being stabbed was one of Loki's tricks and he was not really stabbed or cut. Both too durable. I say stalemate.