1.) It really wouldn't I mean don't get me wrong it is nice but, it wouldn't be able to tag Sora.
So? He has other means of tagging Sora. Such as stopping time, AoE attacks, let's not forget cloning... But he can use these while intangible. Which is why it's absurdly advantageous.
His other means of tagging Sora aren't that good either. Sora is protected by Stop Screen, Dodge Roll or Reflect, I mean it really doesn't matter if you bring three more rabbits to a rabbit vs tiger fight. Sora can still just evade all of their attacks. Not really.
2.) That is probably the reason. Considering it is just a slightly longer wand. There is also the point that Link only has two hands to hold his equipment with his right arm usually used to hold his shield. Leading to again Link would try his best to not use this one.
No he doesn't. And After re-examining, Link doesn't even need to hold the wand, he just has to swing it one time.
In fact here's him swinging his sword with it.
When you said other items, I thought you meant like the boomerang and bombs and stuff(again things restricted due to gameplay). Link doesn't need to hold the wand or concentrate on it's power to use other weapons in general. Don't know where you got that
My bad. I must be thinking of a different item as I could of sworn the cane created a bubble around you not just a glowing ring. Though this easily leads into Sora being able to attack Link from the sky or ground (though I think Link might be immune to ground attacks.)
Nope. Though honestly it becomes less impressive as it still gives Sora room to attack. Yeah I must be thinking of an entirely different item.
I mean you shouldn't as one is just armor while the other is a weapon.
It's not really a weapon, just an item.
I'm probably wrong but, I believe boomerangs were created with the single purpose of being weapons.
3.) I really wouldn't say that. Sure he's the weakest Ganon but, that's the point Ganon and Ganondorf are totally different from each other.
No they're not. Ganon is literally what Ganondorf turns into at the end of Ocarina of Time. However TP Ganondorf turns into Ganon at will. They're the same character unless we're going into specifics with timelines and what not.
Let me rephrase that. Ganon and Ganondorf are totally different from each other in power as Ganon is created when Ganondorf uses all the power of the Triforce of Power. Still the same but, totally different in power. Even with that Ocarina of Time had the stronger Ganon as the one in Twilight Princess seems to have been impacted by the Power of Twilight. Does it ever change? I mean I think he fuses with another bad guy that's really it though.
Though honestly I'd say that Ganondorf from Twilight Princess is honestly the weakest as he gets imprisoned, sent to an alternate dimension
99% of Ganon's get imprisoned. Including Wind Waker Ganon. Except Twilight Princess Ganon got imprisoned in another dimension, and while unquantifiable, that's more impressive than getting imprisoned under the ocean.
They do but, this Ganon got put in regular chains. It really isn't as he could have easily gotten out of the way but, he didn't. At least you have an impressive feat with getting out of the ocean and, I'm pretty sure they just tried to flooding the land in which he survived by finding shelter.
stabbed which later on is used by Link to defeat him
He was stabbed as a normal human being without any artifacts by spirit Sages, and as soon as the triforce of Power manifested itself, He countered even though he was stabbed through the chest.
The wound didn't heal though and he didn't really get any durability feats that impressive from that point on. He barely was able to kill one of the sages in fact I'm pretty sure the Water Sage is the weakest of the sages. Only to then be sent/imprisoned in the Twilight Realm.
While the size of the world of the said dimension is unknown the areas themselves we visit are quite small.
Well considering he wiped out Hyrule twice, or 3 times... and the Dark world is called darkworld... I don't think it's wrong to assume the dimensions are counters to Hyrule. Which is continental in size. The area's visited size shouldn't be relevant. Considering size is limited by gameplay.
Usually with help. World doesn't really mean anything. They are they just aren't the same size. Not saying they're not continents just not as big as Hyrule. It is but, that's all we see them visually impact. Which is most likely what they have control over.
No he usually uses back up like Zant.
Zant wasn't backup. Zant housed a fraction of Ganondorf's power. Everything Zant did should be relegated as a feat for Ganondorf.
He was. Ganondorf used him to try an take out both Link and Midna. To my knowledge on top of his own power. I really can't remember Zant doing anything too impressive.
You did though it was with magic
When he fought Midna I assumed it was with physical force. We don't know if it was with magic or not.
While we don't know for 100% the fact he goes into the weird glowing head thing clearly shows he wasn't using pure physical might.
and we have no idea what he did to the island. Even with that it wasn't destroyed so much as trashed. I really wouldn't say he's continental in anything other than magic, unless I'm missing something.
It Had been shattered. But yeah you're rght
I doesn't look shattered just trashed.
Him manipulating the puppet could just be magic. Most monsters that serve Ganondorf are usually just beings that follow the strongest or they're afraid of Ganondorf's mystical powers not really his physical might. For the most part those monsters can't hit as hard as Sora.
Most part is irrelevant. Fact is there's a couple that can, and they can't break through his invulnerability state
It is relevant. There really aren't but, there could be if some were amped. Though currently there isn't any monster as powerful as Sora or, really anyone as powerful as Sora.
You still didn't show me Sora using Stop without vocalizing...
Still hunting for it.
Not really. Which is why I don't want to use outside help as it becomes to unfair for Link as Sora has too many useful companions. I would like to not use outside help.
Alright no summons
The time orbs wouldn't be a problem thanks to stop screen. I mean in range and duration yes but, in overall feats the Dream Eaters is better. Really wouldn't say universal. To my knowledge the sun is still yellow when it goes off.
What overall feats? What has it done that Link's time stop hasn't done and completely overshadows? And no. The sun appears yellow due to Light. When you stop time, light stops moving ergo, the sun is no longer yellow.
Being able to freeze Xemnas and Young Xehanort both time travelers, even freezing Luxord a time manipulator. It even freezes Ursula with the Trident of Trident and Maleficent. To my knowledge it's still yellow when you do.
The same applies to Link. Sora's ability to self revive really wouldn't be a factor. It does. That's why the green spirit flames appear around Link when one of the abilities activates. Mipha's Grace wouldn't be able to go off because Link is dead/unconscious.
You're basing the claim that it's outside help even though in the story Mipha essentially says, this is the last time I'll see you Link, make you sure you get it done and to help you out I'll give you my powers, and then the power literally enters inside of Link. That green flame thing is nothing but assumption and headcanon on your part. It's purely an artwork decision. The Lore completely counters what you're saying. As for it working even though he's dead or unconscious... it's magic... it doesn't need any more explanation than that.
No she doesn't what she essentially says it that she's happy to see Link and she'll help him anyway she can. Exactly it is her power, not Link's showing she is the one who must activate them for him. How? We know the dead champions give of green spirit flames. Artist do things for specific reasons. The green flames are there to show us Link isn't the one activating any of these abilities. It doesn't it actually agrees with my point. You have to give a reason for you're magic, you can't just be like I'm gonna make an immortality potion, proceed to not make it and somehow say you're immortal now. Link can't activate if he dies or goes unconscious, an outside influence like Mipha who controls the power can. Now I'm going to address something cause I know it will get brought up. You may ask well why don't the green flames appear in the cutscene, simple she's already there she doesn't have to go to him.
I really don't understand what Ventus has to do with this. Sure he gave Sora the ability to wield a Keyblade but that doesn't do anything now.
That's how I feel about Mipha's Grace.
You shouldn't as they're two completely different points.
Ezlo was a Minish which got turned into a hat. That's outside help.
Yeah but I'm not saying use Minish Ezlo, I'm saying to use Ezlo as a Hat... however disregarding him, as he doesn't add much except shrinking anyways.
No you misunderstand. Even if he was in his Hat Form he'd still be outside help. As he's not stuck inside something that's just his body, we even see he can still act on his own and, is sentient.
She wouldn't. She's both
No she doesn't have a free will. She was created with a sole purpose:
Having free will and being stuck inside something are totally different. Just cause she was created with a purpose doesn't mean she isn't outside help.
not stuck in the sword until she goes into a deep slumber once the Master Sword is complete. She's outside help.
Again wrong, she's always stuck in the sword. That's just a visual spirit appearing to speak to Link. It's not like Fi can fight , touch, or interfere with battles. She aids Link by informing him. She thought she was going to go to sleep forever until Demise brought a curse upon their lineage.
If she was stuck in the sword she would have never come out. She wouldn't need a visual spirit if she was stuck inside the sword. Sure she can't fight but, she can interfere with battle by telling Link weaknesses of an enemy. She even downright talks a robot into helping Link. She still is sleeping though.
He really doesn't.
Um, he had an ocean piled ontop of him... and got from underneath it.
To my knowledge he didn't. The Goddesses just tried to flood Hyrule to get rid of him.
It has? I can't remember anyone being that big.
The first boss of Wind Waker was not only the size of a building it lifted small building sized mountain peak off of it's back and placed it back on the mountiain(from inside) multiple times
I definitely wouldn't say the peak itself was small building size but, she was. Though to my knowledge she doesn't do anything.
When has Link ever been building level? The only one that comes to mind is Legend of Zelda 2 but, that was with a very specific item. Link is really not building level.
Bust a barrier that's bigger than the castle and reaches from ocean floor to sea level
To my knowledge that's less Link and more of the Master Sword as, I'm pretty sure that's one of its abilities. As in Link to the Past you need it to break a magical barrier that's guarding Hyrule Castle.
I'm not saying that characters like Simba aren't magical it's just not all of them are magical like Tron. You just need to be strong.
Tron is a computer program... He doesn't need to fight with magic, his world is literally so technically advanced that the tech could be consider magic, and there's no proof he doesn't use it. What is the evidence Tron doesn't have magic?
Which isn't magic. He does. You just said they need magic, he doesn't have it. The fact he never uses it.
Simple he didn't pull it out of anywhere he just found it. The same way the enemies are being pulled in to he's just going with the flow not against it.
Where did he find it in an instant during his combat with others? Up his ass? Why does this chest have a magical light? Where did he find this chest that consistently has magical light in it. Face it, that's called magic.
In the magic cave they're in. Magic. He didn't it teleported to him once he found it. The chest is magic but, Jack isn't causing the magic.
Not really. Not really magic. no you need to be strong in order to hurt a Heartless or Nobody. Roxas couldn't hurt the Nobody because he had a struggle bat which is not designed to cause serious harm and, Sora has a toy wooden sword which was also designed to not cause that much harm.
You're saying Sora wasn't strong by the end of Kingdom hearts? Whether it causes much damage or not is partially irrelevant, as it does no damage no matter how strong the character is.
When Sora lost ownership of the Keyblade to Riku yes. It shouldn't as it is a toy sword.
Mostly due to Sora having more and has more secure ways of healing.
But he doesn't have more... your point is moot. Link can stop time or be invulnerable to heal, I don't know why he would... because he'll be invulnerable... but if anything while invulnerable he can rub on some Secret Medicine, a potion that revives him as he dies..
He does. He has Potions, Mega-Potions, Hi-Potions, Drive Forms, tons of magic, etc. Sora won't be impacted by his time stopping abilities.
2.) It does show that Sora knows how to defend himself. Even using abilities he shouldn't like Saix's Berserker Rage. While Sora's Guard Form shows how he can easily use defensive gear like a shield. Showing that Sora has the means to use the cane or cape. Which falls in point with the original point.
These two things do not mean Sora will just grab his cape or cane and know how to use them. Sora still shows more adaptivity with offensive means. Using a shield and sword is cool, But Sora offensively has grabbed a monster from the sky and used it as a laser without knowing anything about how it's laser works. Using a shield and sword does not compare defensively, and definitely doesn't prove he'll have the means to use the Cape or cane.
It doesn't mean he'll try to grab it but, it does show he could use it. He also shows adaptivity with defensive items, it truly matches the saying a good defense is a good offense. If they were just a regular sword or shield sure they wouldn't be that impressive but, it's a magical shield and sword. All he did was allow it to charge it's laser then manually guide it. It does. If he can use the Gigas he can use the wand or cape.
They do. Just not in range.
Soooo.... what makes their feat equitable or superior
Dodge Roll my friend, Dodge Roll. For ether he could just glide around. For bombos he could just roll.
Ether is omnidirectional. Including through the sky. In fact it's stated to affect airborne enemies more. Bombos is a bunch of random explosions, so I guess he could roll, but, Ether is still getting him, So i still see omnidirectional attacks tagging him since he can follow up ether with either bombos or Quake.
Everything I've posted.
I'm pretty sure Ether only freezes everything in a short range, something Sora has already dealt with. Doesn't it say it only controls the upper atmosphere I don't remember it ever saying it was more affective. He could still just roll for Ether. Not really.