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Juggernaut is gonna melt Hulkbuster down and turn him into a cock-ring.

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@richard96 said:

Ronan smashes his hammer on juggernaut’s head...

And does nothing.

Juggernaut stomps

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I agree with all the opinions

Actual writers are doing a piece of shit with Juggy. How is possible being more powerful than ever, but being hurt with a mallet that rips a tooth. Wtf!

Ironically, the current Juggernaut is not even close to the shadow of the classic Juggernaut. Rather he looks like a depowered Juggernaut in Thundebolts.

Furthermore, I do not accept his last appearances. It is a complete offense to the character's original concept and purpose.

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I suppose if they put a high voltage electric cable in Thor's ass, in the same way that they did to Juggernaut, he would survive, for sure. Or if he is nailed with a pointy iron rod in the eye and lately crushed his nuts with a very hard punch by Colossus’ steel fist, he is going to survive for sure. This is how a superhero is overhyped in an irrational way.

Second, Juggernaut’s strike power destroyed a massive reinforced concrete stretch of 100 m2 approx. of a bridge with eight channels, just by the impact of his punch with zero momentum or the pure physical force of his arm. Not mention how the concussive force (shockwave) of his punch was able to levitate several meters about 250 tons of a heavy DMC road train armored in motion. The force he used was around tens of thousands of tons.

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This feat of strength was much greater, more impressive and powerful than any feat of strength performed by Thor in the whole Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Where is a single feat that demonstrates the concussive force of a Thor’s bare punch over a massive structure of reinforced concrete with the absolute wrecking effect done by Juggernaut, without using the Mjolnir or the Stormbreaker (which are amplifiers of his powers)??

Juggernaut ripped Deadpool in half like paper with his bare hands.
Juggernaut ripped Deadpool in half like paper with his bare hands.

Moreover, Juggernaut was toying with Colossus (who is a mutant powerhouse, man of steel!) and was about to kill him by saying that he was going “to turn him into a cock ring”, until surprisingly Negasonic and Yukio had to appear from behind in order to save his butt, by tying Juggernaut’s legs (without him noticing), making him stumble or lose balance and end up falling down into the pool by the flare blow of Negasonic, a whole teamwork.

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Juggernaut grabbing and lifting effortlessly 16 tons-school bus and used it violently as it were a baseball bat to hit Colossus.

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Thor only has advantage in H2H fighting abilities but is not enough to defeat this Juggernaut (DP2/Fox). Juggernaut’s strength and durability outclasses Thor. Not mention he has a very fast regenerative factor.

Being objective, it would be a good battle, but Juggernaut will kill him eventually and absolutely by imposing his brute force.

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@hyiena: jeje because Wade admires him and confessed to be his number 1 fan. Also, I agree with him about Juggernaut is the best Marvel character. He very cunningly pointed out some important appearances of Juggernaut in comics that justify that claim. ^__^

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@kha-el: Yes, Juggernaut’s strike power is superior by far.

Spoiler alert:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/juggernaut-fox-vs-steppenwolf-dceu-spoilers-1951429/?page=2

In this thread I've put an idea of how strong could have been the concussive force (shockwave) of the Juggernaut hit as to levitate several meters about 250 tons of a heavy DMC road train armored and destroy by the impact of his punch a massive reinforced concrete stretch of 100 m2 approx. of a bridge with eight channels. (Really must be calculated the volume and the resistance of the materials: concrete and steel).

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It's 3.

Nop, 1, a locomotive was derailed, the car tank exploded by the impact. I saw it very well

It got derailed.

No lifted

He derailed 700 ton.

Fail logic, no lifted 150-200 tons, it was just lay down by an impact force around 15 tons which came them off the railway tracks.

They derailed before exploded.

Nope, the car tank exploded by the impact

It's 800 ton force feat.

https://youtu.be/BvIkSoJrr1s

Fail logic, again, it was not even lifted (150-200 tons), just lay down by an impact force around 15 tons which came them off the railway tracks.

The derailment did not occur by collision with another moving object, it was caused by the impact of Nam-Ek's body to a locomotive’s one side as it seen in the image. This would require around at least about 15 tons to lay it on its side.

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Really?

Yes.

Destroying reinforced concrete >> destroying bridge.

Fail logic, a bridge is structure composed by reinforced concrete

She overpowered him more than once.

Nope, she was overpowered by Colossus.

Aquaman tossed a nuclear submarine (leaked trailer)

Wtf! this has not happened in any DCEU movies.

Which isn't that strong.

So far, it is the strongest punch that exceeds that of Supes.

Assumption!

Everything expressed in this forum are assumptions based on observable feats, including your failed arguments, boy, if you have not noticed.

Which still Diana's bracelet slam level.

Diana doesn't have that power without her bracelets. Concussive force by magical bracelets is <<<<< the concussive force created by the raw strength of a single and direct punch performed by juggernaut.

Off topic!!!

It's part of my explanation, but it's obvious that you've already started trolling me.

Completely stupid logic.

Stupidest number throwing ever scene.

Ad hominem fallacies are proof that you has lost the debate.

Where it's made of metal.

Metal=/=concrete.

Concrete, plus reinforcing steel. Kid, you don't have the slightest notion of constructive systems of buildings and singular structures.

It's no different from Diana's feat punching Steppenwolf through reinforced concrete.

It's totally different, low balling Juggernaut's feat will not help you.

FYI : this is not even close to Superman's punch which tossed doomsday hundreds of miles into space or one shot object that was no sell to reentry while weakened,etc.

Nope, DD was not tossed by a punch, he was speed blitzed by Supes. While Supes was flying, he was able to hit him multiple times before DD had a chance to react. After DD adapted, he reacted.

Supes moves so fast and hit more hard when he is flying, this is traduced in combat speed + flying momentum + strength. Juggernaut’s strike feat was more impressive and strong since he had no momentum, zero inertia, no flying momentum, only the brute strength of the impact of his arm to exert an estimated force of 26,000 tons in one single destructive punch.

Hell yeah, this was enough to stop and lift (by the shockwave of his concussive force) about 250 tons of a heavy DMC road train armored a several meters and crack a damn hole through around 100 mt2 area of a massive structure of reinforced concrete of an eight-channel bridge, which has a total weight about 300.000 tons.

Kid, antagonizing my comments will not return your debunked and failed arguments. You started this, trying to impose your opinion on mine. I have already debunked your arguments in a logical way but you keep replaying me your failed arguments again and again to convince me otherwise, it is useless and stupid.

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#9  Edited By kenshiroo
@plotweapon16255 said:
@kenshiroo said:

His punch was able to derailed 3 locomotives & 2 tank cars which is a 600 ton feat.

Wrong.

First, there were two derailed locomotives, not three

The locomotives were static, not moving, nor were lifted by the impact of Nam-Ek's body (punched by Supes).

The total weight of the two locomotives is not 600 but about 400 tons, but none were lifted with the impact, they only were lay down to one side.

The tank cars exploded by the impact, they weren’t derailed.

The locomotives were not lifted, they were only derailed by being pushed or reclined to the side due the impact of Nam-Ek's body. That could only take a impact force around 15 tons by looking upon the mass of the Nam-Ek's body and I think it's a lot.

This is nothing compared to Juggernaut's strike punch feat.

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@kenshiroo said:

Which was able too push him through wall that is no sell to a jet crash.

Still he tanked it.

Again, Diana without her bracelets can not create a wave of concussive force. She would be featless. Also, her bracelets concussive force remains unimpressive and doesn’t equal to Juggernaut's strike force which stems by his own brute force or raw strength.

@plotweapon16255 said:
@kenshiroo said:

@plotweapon16255 said:

Colossus clearly struggled to overcome her strength while she strangulated him.

After being hit in the nuts with treachery, anyone would be weak and vulnerable. In any case, previously, she had already been physically overpowered by Colossus, who was holding back himself as not to seriously hurt her. It was very clear that he was much stronger.

@plotweapon16255 said:
@kenshiroo said:

Juggs isn't gonna phase someone who took superman punches.

Juggernaut would rip in half someone who was savagely beaten and seriously hurt and weakened by Aquaman.

Just to have a little notion about the Juggernaut’s strike feat in DP2.

If a BAB-quad road train can weigh 200 tons or more with all its load, then a DMC road train-armored convoy can be above to 250 tonnes.

DMC road train-armored convoy
DMC road train-armored convoy

The Vancouver's GranvilleStreetBridge was the reinforced concrete structure collapsed, in one of its sections, by the Juggernaut’s strike power

What load does this bridge support?

1) Dead Load - meaning the self weight of the bridge structure and other permanent weight present.

2) Live load - Road bridge. Cars, trucks, etc. Rail bridge - Engine load, rail car load, DMC road train-armored convoy, etc.

3) Environmental loads - wind, rain water, snow, etc.

4) Earthquake load

Taking as a reference the Golden Gate bridge’s constructive statistics that exceeds a little more than double long and almost three times in weight than Granville Street bridge, I can estimate that the total weight of the Granville Street bridge structure could be around 300.000 tonnes.

Golden Gate total length: 2.7 kms.

Golden Gate total weight: 887,000 tons

Granville Street bridge total length: 1.17 kms.

Granville Street bridge total weight: around 300.000 tons

Juggernaut probably collapsed an area about 100 mt2 of this bridge with a single punch.

So the juggernaut’s punch was incredibly so strong not only being able to stop and lift (by the shockwave of his concussive force) about 250 tons of a heavy DMC road train armored a several meters, but cracked a huge shit hole through a massive structure of reinforced concrete of an eight-channel bridge wich has a total weight about 300.000 tons.

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So, how much force juggernaut used to collapse a part of its structure (about 100 mt2, being conservative) in one direct punch to the ground, I don’t know exactly but doing some calculations no less 26.000 tons.

Done crazy, this feat places it above the other strike feats about Supes and WW.

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#10  Edited By kenshiroo
@plotweapon16255 said:
@kenshiroo said:

Its right, Jugg (DP2) is physically stronger than Steppenwolf.

No, jugg has impressive strike feat which is NO where near Superman's punch or Diana's bracelet slam which he tanked.

Where is a Superman strike feat that equals Jugg's feat (DP2)??

Diana's bracelet slam is not a direct punch over something, it just generates a shockwave of concussive force. Not mention her bracelets were magically made to be indestructible and work like an amplifier of her own power. Without them she can not create a wave of concussive force.

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@kenshiroo said:

Not to mention Jugg was going to kill Colossus, who is a powerhouse of steel muscles.

The same colossus who almost got killed by angel dust.

You missed Colossus was holding back because she was a lady, even he had already defeated her swiftly with several slams, so much that a pummeled and battered Angel, accidentally showed her tit to make him lower his guard, punch his nuts hard and later hang him out by his back. Angel Dust never really was a physical match for Colossus.

There is no point of comparison and much less against the Juggernaut fight, for the love of God!