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@thedandyman: "Now, I have something to admit: I've never seen the Warner Bros. Batman films. And, to be honest, that's probably a good thing. Why watch those dusty old relics (sorry if you like them but they don't exactly look like masterpieces if I'm truthful) when there's the Dark Knight trilogy."

Firstly, you should see the first one at the very least. It is incredibly important to the Batman franchise as the Nolan movies, the games, and the amazing animated series all would probably not exist if it wasn't for the first Burton movie.

Secondly, "Warner Bros. Batman films"? The Dark Knight trilogy are all Warner Bros. too!

Was this on the Doom special features or something?

If it was basically Gotham Central, then everything would have been okay.

I normally don't like Grant Morrison's work. If I went by percentage, then I definitely like more Miller's stuff than Morrison ESPECIALLY when it comes to Batman. Only Batman story from Morrison I like is Arkham Asylum.

However, Miller is a huge a-hole and Morrison is one of the coolest people I've heard talk.

My vote goes to Morrison.

See, these were basically my thoughts. Also, if you watch the special features on The Dark Knight Returns, one of the comic writers makes a good point that they're only staging this for the rest of the world. They are working out how to be at good terms with one another for the rest of their lives (assuming we don't count The Dark Knight Strikes Again as ever existing).

I apologize ahead of time for not being more in tune with the New 52 DC Universe. I only have the money to read Batman, and that's been fantastic! So it's done more good than bad for Batman's universe, that's for sure.

However, since I'm kind of in the dark on these things, is Justice League: War a good representation of what the New 52 is like for the rest of the DCU or even just Justice League?

If that's the case, then it is doing a lot of harm, as I hate most of these new characterizations.

@jeremy1989: I think Long Halloween is probably filled with the best Bruce Wayne moments. You got him with Selina Kyle, and you have scene where he cries on the staircase during father's day. These are moments of Bruce that I'd personally like to see more of in the comics.

I also think that Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy does an excellent job of showing off great Bruce Wayne moments.

I've been wanting to read more on Black Mask, and I hear he has a huge part in the whole War Games saga. Not only this, but it seems like an epic like the No Man's Land and Knightsfall sagas, and long runs in the Batman universe like this always intrigues me.

However, I bought War Drums (the prelude to War Games) and I didn't like it much. Is the rest of this particular run just like War Drums? Or does it get better? Does anyone recommend War Games at all, or can I just skip it?

While on this topic, is Bruce Wayne: Murderer any good?

So, I watched this Angry Joe rant on the Superman/Batman movie today and he was very upset about The Dark Knight Returns.

As a huge Batman fan, I love The Dark Knight Returns and is the only book that I've read more than 10 times. But do most Superman fans hate The Dark Knight Returns as much as Angry Joe does? Like, I get that it totally doesn't give justice to Superman, but this is a what-if story... And at the time, Superman was known for his American way so why wouldn't he be pro-American government and always stay by its side?

So yeah, what are Superman fans' thoughts on The Dark Knight Returns? Is it a good piece of literature even though it doesn't portray Superman well, or is it really bad because of what they did to Superman?

The most careless, the most immature, the most reckless, etc. Who do you think holds this title? Just curious.