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guruguru will be taken out easily . Obito and madara then gangs up and pull a win against hashirama

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@kcminato: Logically speaking, Orochimaru is at his peak in that fight, so unless you think Sasuke vastly outspeeds people on Orochimaru's tier, like Jiraiya, you're smoking something. Itachi didn't believe he could meaningfully incapacitate Jiraiya in Part 1, why would he believe that of someone he vastly outsped?

orochimaru at his peak in that fight ? Do elaborate on how you came to that conclusion ? I mean sasuke was keeping up with the likes of Sage kabuto and holding his own and we know that SM kabuto would take orochi out ... At this point EMS Sasuke already surpassed orochi as well so i see no point in you showing how strong orochi is and turning this into a sasuke vs orochi thread.

Itachi is flat shown to keep up with KCM Naruto, who is certainly above EMS Sasuke's speed tier.

Itachi is far above EMS SASUKE in speed? So do tell how Kirin sasuke could keep up with itachi h2h . Sasuke also kept up with Danzo , deidara and raikage as well . You clearly are underestimating Sasuke's speed .

So, either you're saying EMS Sasuke -and by extension 4th Raikage and Unwilling KCM Naruto- HARSHLY fodderize Jiraiya/Orochimaru in speed or you're not. Which is it?

I mean do show some feats of orochi/jiraiya being able to keep up with raikage in max speed and kcm naruto who has been compared with Minato in terms of speed .

JUST before becoming EMS, Sasuke is SLIGHTLY faster than Danzo. You're saying DANZO HARSHLY outspeeds Jiraiya/Orochimaru/Itachi?

Do realise that i did not say sasuke would speed blitz . I merely stated that sasuke has a speed advantage that will hugely contribute to his win ....

Get real. You might have an argument for EoS Sasuke, but EoS Sasuke is not EMS Sasuke.

You must be kidding me . You must be one of those who believe Hiruzen can take out Madara and Kaguya lmao . If you are , we are done here ... lmao ... fancy you bringing eos sasuke in here . Hiruzen is as good as fodder to EoS sasuke . EoS sasuke stomps 10/10 . Can't believe you think hirzuen stands a chance against EoS Sasuke . We are clearly done here .

Sasuke doesn't keep distance unless he has no choice. He didn't keep distance vs Deidara: he fought the entire battle trying to get close against an enemy that was playing keep away.

That was not my point . My point was that he would be able to quickly adapt to his opponent's fighting style and take them out accordingly .

Orochimaru/1st/2nd all got instantly paralyzed once they got hit. Orochimaru was BARELY able to move two fingers when Hiruzen had been drained almost completely.

Don't mention the 1st and 2nd like they were part of the battle . The EDO TENSEI that orochi did was nowhere as close to their true strength as their real selves if you were not aware lmao .

Orochimaru/1st/2nd all got instantly paralyzed once they got hit. Orochimaru was BARELY able to move two fingers when Hiruzen had been drained almost completely.You do realise that hiruzen has to tag sasukefirst . And sasuke would clearly know not to get tagged for this not to happen ...

Wait.. just scrape what i just said lmao . Why are you even bringing up hiruzen using Shiki Fuujin ? You do realise it will result in a tie knowing how it will kill hirzuen as well ? And don't bring up shadow clones as they wont be strong enough to seal sasuke just like how hirzuen was not strong enough to seal orochi with shadow clones much less himself so hirzuen only could seal orochi's arms lmao . // Hiruzen was not even strong enough to seal orochimaru and could only seal his arms . Think about how weak it would be on sasuke .... hiruzen had to rely on his own physical strength to extract someones soul. Because he lacked the strength to fully do that, he opted instead to only seal Orochimaru's arms, accomplished by having the Shinigami cut off the arms of Orochimaru's soul

Itachi's Amaterasu is common knowledge to Hiruzen just like it was common knowledge to Danzo. The moment Sasuke activates Mangekyou, the jig is up. Hell, just the fact that it's Sasuke would mean there was Sharingan genjutsu involved. Why wouldn't Hiruzen just keep the battle sightless to begin with? Complete darkness doesn't affect him in the slightest, after all.

what? How will he keep the battle sightless lmao ? The Kokuangyo no Jutsu was used by the senjus not hiruzen lmao . Yes , basic knowledge on the ability is one thing . Being able to counter it is another . So again , how will hiruzen deal with amatarasu or even genjutsu ...

Up till this point you still have not provided concrete evidence on hiruzen being able to counter amatarasu / susanoo . Susanoo will be the deciding factor this match and will result in hiruzen losing .

Just in the fight already with Juubito , Hiruzen faired much worse as compared to Sasuke ...

There's no way hiruzen can win this battle and if you continue on with thinking " hiruzen is god of shinobi and can destroy everyone" , I'll have to stop here

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@kcminato said:

prime hiruzen is essentially featless . Based on feats from battle with orochi , ems sasuke still outweighs hiruzen in strength speed and versatality . and hiruzen can't have an answer for amaterasu as well as having much difficulty with sussanoo

Based on feats vs an Orochimaru that's stronger than any version but HashiCell Orochimaru, OldHiruzen stomps.

orochi showed nothing impressive in that fight that would pit him against sasukes greater speed and hax.... no way is hiruzen stomping ... show me feats that put hiruzen on sasukes speed level ... Show me something that hiruzen can do that would counter amaterasu ... only thing that may hinder sasuke truly is enma but again sasukes answer to that would easily be susanoo .

He has perfect senses even in complete darkness and was able to sneak up on Orochi/1st/2nd with no problem, even though all three are strong sensors.

He knows the Sharingan via Kagami, etc.

And that will help him make up for speed difference and attack potency , how?

His mastery of Shiki Fuujin allows him to create shadow clones that instantly paralyze and kill. Remember, even after wasting tons of chakra and then splitting it into three, he was still able to easily kill 2/3 opponents with Shiki Fuujin. The first and second of which had literally zero consequences.

First of all , it is not instant and battle would be over before hiruzen can use his technique ... hiruzen only uses it as a last resort attack and by then he would already be taken down by sasukes amaterasu and overwhelming strength .

The battle against a 100% kill-hungry Hiruzen is a battle against getting tagged... Once.

would be of no problem for sasuke who is a combatant strategist where he can easily keep his distance as he easily did so in the fight with deidara

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prime hiruzen is essentially featless . Based on feats from battle with orochi , ems sasuke still outweighs hiruzen in strength speed and versatality . and hiruzen can't have an answer for amaterasu as well as having much difficulty with sussanoo

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#7  Edited By KCMinato

@wastelandman: Awesome! But without the infinity stone , who would you compare mcu strange to , with other mcu characters . Thor ? Black Panther ? Iron Man?

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He can if he is serious.

Nope , even with his top and best feats , how would he even be able to hurt iron man or vision much less deal with tp attacks from wanda ?

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@celestialknight said:
@mrnoital said:

theoretically he "could"

but given a storyline and plot, he'd probably run circles around them for a bit and get dropped when he first attacks

Agreed. In theory, he has the capability to. But given as to how he's been tagged by enemies with normal reaction times, Wanda would tag him.

Also, Idk how he'd bring Vision down.

Lighting throwing

Barry's lightning hardly even made a scratch on supergirl . You think that'll be enough to defeat vision much less hurt him ?

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Hawkeye's Electric arrow was able to restraint him for a while and Barry's lighting can literally ko him.

Why do u put vision in Supergirl level durability ????

Please tell me your joking .

Firstly , that merely restrained him for no less than 1 minute and did no damage to him whatsoever . So can the flash restrain him ? Yes . Can it damage him ? Definitely not lmao . Nothing proves to show that it would even be close to damaging vision , knowing how he is made of vibranium .... On top of that he can even manipulate his density and weight to be extremely durable to the point of being able to tank attacks from Vibranium Ultron .

Next , the only reason that worked on vision because of the element of surprise ... If flash were to throw that lightning straight to vision , nothing suggests that he would not be able to simply phase through the lightning like how he did with hawkeye's subsequent arrow shots .

Why did i put vision in supergirl's level durability ?

Of course vision would not be as durable as supergirl but they are clearly on similar levels . And ok let's take away what I just said and focus on something much more important . What's the damage / power output of Barry's lightning ? Last time I checked , no feats of barry's lightning suggests that it has a large enough power to even hurt vision . And that's assuming his lightning would even hit vision when vision has the ability to phase and uses it constantly

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@celestialknight said:
@mrnoital said:

theoretically he "could"

but given a storyline and plot, he'd probably run circles around them for a bit and get dropped when he first attacks

Agreed. In theory, he has the capability to. But given as to how he's been tagged by enemies with normal reaction times, Wanda would tag him.

Also, Idk how he'd bring Vision down.

Lighting throwing

Barry's lightning hardly even made a scratch on supergirl . You think that'll be enough to defeat vision much less hurt him ?