Kayc

Oh my f god, how obtuse can a person be.

Senjumaru's reiatsu traveled and passed through dimensions, plain and simple. This isn't a matter of opinion, it's a fact of the anime. The show doesn't explain how it happened, so we just use occam's razor and conclude that reiatsu on Senjumaru's level just ignores those boundaries. In short, Bleach god tiers have interdimensional range with their reiatsu.

@ninjarizer said:

This is what she did:

Now imagine she said something like Taiyokei tenchi or whatever (heaven and earth of the solar system)

Then the camera showed Earth shaking, then it showed Neptune. Are you gonna assume she didn’t shake the whole solar system? That she didn’t shake the moon, or Mars?

Because I think the showing of Neptune makes it pretty obvious she shook the whole solar system,

This is just my logic though, I can’t explain it any better than this; I think it’s just clear enough that she shook the cosmology.

Could you draw a diagram better explaining what she did?

In fact, could anyone?

This is exactly what happened and I dare anyone to explain and prove otherwise.

@kayc:

The thing is unlike Kaguya's, there is no proof of planetary distances for Yukio's dimension. You can provide otherwise.

What proof did you give for planetary distance again? Because no one flew to the Stars to confirm Kaguya's dimension if that's the level of proof you ask for.

A lot of ninja create dimensions in the Narutoverse. Dimensions are created within people to host tailed beasts, or to seal people, objects and jutsu, or perform secret rituals.

Jiraiya creates dimensions within toads bellies to seal people away. He can even summon the dimension into the real world, clearly seen when he summoned the stomach of a Toad against Itachi and Kisame.

The Nue dimension which was almost unfathomable space was created by root to seal Gozu Tenno.

Kamui dimension is a creation of Obito's Mangekyou. It didn't just exist.

The tailed beasts are sealed within dimensions in their host Jinchuriki.

Orochimaru creates a dimension within the host he chooses to takeover.

There are so many other examples.

Eh, some of your example are completely wrong. But whatever, I shouldn't digress I did say creating dimensions wasn't a big deal.

Don't beat about the bush. Obito was losing a lot of chakra opening portals trying to connect spaces within Kaguya's dimension. He stated it was because of how vast Kaguya's dimension where, not because of finding Sasuke specifically. I don't know what manga you read.

.No he never said that. He was losing a lot of chakra because he had to a dimension that wasn't his. He said this even before he realized it was vast or not. And he had to do it repeatedly to find Sasuke. Which is why I said it drained him.

You say I beat around the bush but you completely dodge the question. If losing chakra means the dimension is large. Why does he travel to earth dimension easily and repeatedly with 0 problems? This is where your made up logic breaks down

Does Yukio have a feat that drains people energy traversing planetary spaces within his dimensions?

Dimensional travel is common in bleach. It's not supposed to be a rare technique that's draining. And there is no metric of energy drain at all, so that's entirely a Naruto thing if you insist. And this question makes no sense, what do you mean traversing planetary spaces? They're literally opening a portal between parallel dimension. Parallel meaning they don't touch or exist in the same time space and there's no concept of distance between the two.

The same happened to Sasuke traversing Kaguya's dimension. Noted it was chakra taxing, and even lost power in his rinnegan and sharingan. Sasuke also noted travelling to Momoshiki's dimension would be chakra taxing, so he had to take less people.

Again he had to take less people because of how taxing it is to take more people. Somehow More people= more chakra for Sasuke. Which is a weird drawback specific to Sasuke. Nothing about the dimension size.

Amenominaka is still dimensional travelling. Either that, or you accept she was shifting whole solar systems/galaxies instantly.

I don't know what you're trying to argue here. It is an actual fact that Amenomika is more taxing than her other dimensional traveling abilities. The other one where she manually opens a portal clearly didn't do much to her How it works is irrelevant to the discussion

No. Kinshiki reported to Momoshiki that the space curvature in a sector was over 16. Momoshiki noted that Kaguya was supposed to safeguard that sector and report back to the clan if there was anomaly over 10. Momoshiki already knew the sector (earth space), and where it was. There was no looking for earth in a haystack.

The dimensions Momoshiki and Kinshiki were traversing that made Momo claim he burned those chakra pills was Kaguya's dimension. He was not searching for Earth, he was looking through Kaguya's dimension for answers which made them cross paths with Sasuke.

Ok. This is still irrelevant to the discussion until you make your point properly. Are you saying Momo burnt chakra because Kaguya dimension is huge? And if it were small he would burn less chakra?

Honestly you're just making things up to fit your narrative. The fact that these guys travel to earth universe which is stupidly large compared to any other pocket dimension, with 0 problems already destroys your argument. Moreover Obito already told you the reason he needs enormous chakra.. Because it's not his timepsace.

You could say the time space is vast compared to his own. But where are you getting the time space is a galaxy much less universe here?

@kayc: I mean their plenty of evidence kaguyas dimension is no bigger then a planet. When naruto and sasuke created a moon it did not go fully into orbit like the one hagoromo made even tho it's the same justu. This is because her dimension isn't that big and doesn't have outer space

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I'd yukio can fit the kyogoku into his dimension which is big enough to hold stars that means his dimensions are indeed that big. Yukio can lock plp into his dimension so you can't even use teleportion in it can also nullify abilities in it aswell like what he did to orhime

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@kayc: As you can he made one with a moon and planet another with a star and a planet with 4 × the gravity pf earth. Earths gravity is 1G yukio's planet had 4.5 G. Unlike kaguya he made 6 of these instantly while kaguya needs prep time and needs to accumulate chakra over time to destroy a small dimension with a planet

@kayc:

It contains just as many heavenly bodies as kaguya's if that's what you're asking.

No Naruto fans are just salty in this case. If any otsusuki comes and threaten the Naruto cosmology. I don't mean personal pocket dimensions. I mean the verse where The main cast resides..I heavily doubt that a sane bleach fan would suddenly say the Naruto cosmology is actually nothing more than a planet, there's even less material on Naruto cosmology but I doubt anyone calls it " just a planet". Which is the hypocritical claims Naruto fans throw around then take a position of self righteousnes and pretend not to see it.

Why do you keep equating pocket dimensions to bleach entire cosmology. Kaguya's creation and destruction of space time is something Yukio does casually on panel and even has better control of his dimensions. And Yukio doesn't breath next to the characters being discussed. Should he be complex multiversal too?? This ain't a statement by the way, he does it on panel unlike Kaguya, same with Gremmy. Same with Kyogoku.

I keep trying to tell you guys Pocket dimension creation feats is something vastly different from the powers on display when talking bleach Cosmology. And you keep trying to equate pocket dimension to entire cosmology.

@uchihaghost:

> kaguya created 6 time/spaces full planetoids with suns and moons etc

> 3 eyed Juudara > 2 eyed juudara > 1 eyed juudara (has 50% kurama and full hachibi >> juubito > 3rd form juubi > srcond form juubi (small planet worth of energy)

Juudara in his final form is stated to be above the sage and closer to his mom in power

> Jj hagoromo has prime juubi in him, and should be superior to even kaguya

> momoshiki in base drained a star

> isshiki is even superior

These are all God tiers not top tiers like he said And you said it's all about AP and then post some unexpected answers

Dimension Creation feats. Yukio and Gremmy creation feats surpass Kaguya in that aspect. I thought we were on the same page that this isn't that but maybe not.

Also I don't know why you're bringing up "planet Worth of energy from the sensing sphere" in an AP argument. I guess that's equivalent of me saying Hollows posses energy from planet Worth of souls or even better Sokyoku having dimension destroying energy. Still not what I was expecting.

I will just lol at Momo draining a star. @kayc provided much better answers though with regards to AP.

These are all God tiers and none of these are " nothing feats "..I feel like you missed my point. I wasn't saying there was no planetary feats in Naruto.