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Maybe we could pick an actor who has the same voice timbre as Kevin Conroy and actually sounds intimidating when he does the "bat-voice" ?

Tim Burton is one of the slickest visual peddlers in Hollywood today. His films tend to look amazing, full of fantastic characters. Just don't stop and think about the plot though.

It would be incredibly ironic if the same people who loved MoS would come out of this picture saying "They got Batman all wrong !!!"

People get too hung up on the idea that the Man of Steel had no choice but to kill Zod, but that's all purely arbitrary. They could just as well have put in a scene where he kicks Zod into the Phantom Zone as the whole thing collapses and it appears to kill him. This yields the same net result of having him understand that some choices are not an option, while leaving it up to the sequels to determine if Zod is still alive or not (or a possible vengeance rampage by Faora etc ...)

Another idea is to have some Kryptonian weapon stashed on the scout ship that might kill Zod. The Man of Steel banks on the chance that Zod can still be reasoned with, but as Zod goes on a rampage, Lois, Perry, the trucker, Batman, the kid from Iron Man, uses the gun and makes the decision for him. You can vary this by having the Man of Steel hang onto Zod, making him an accessory (and place himself in danger).

Establish that Clark had problems metabolising solar power earlier in his life, he has adapted in the meantime, but Zod burns himself up in the fight and threatens to explode and destroy the city, Clark gets him out of the way in the nick of time, but is wounded by the explosion.

One of the Kryptonians has second thoughts about the whole thing and thinks Zod is making a mistake, he sacrifices himself to stop Zod at the last moment and possibly kills him.

Clark is able to use some of the ship atmosphere to temporarily disable Zod, but he prefers to die rather than be at his mercy. Or the US military see their chance and kill him.

Zod develops a different power set from Clark, but it backfires at some point and kills him.

Zod develops more powers than Clark and is about to kill him when Jor El uses some Kryptonian device to become material for a brief period and boost Clark's abilities or sacrifices himself so that Clark gets the time to assimilate his new abilities.

Zod and his fellow Kryptonians are a motley bunch and there is a lot of internal strife. While on earth Faora develops a crush on Clark and refuses to kill him. Zod then appears to kill her and goes to finish Clark, but Faora grabs Zod and tells him that he must stop them. Clark still believes he can reason with Zod, but he kills Faora, just before she wounds him. Clark stops Zod, but the wound turns out to be fatal anyway.

Loyal like a puppy Faora is betrayed by Zod and he then kills her. Turns out she wasn't dead and kills Zod instead.

Instead of the DNA injection, Jor El gives Kal El some kind of Kryptonian nano tech that creates a suit, projects images of his parents and can be transformed into a weapon that can disable Zod, but in the struggle it kills him accidentally.

Alternatively, the injection and his unusual birth give Clark stable powers, while the solar radiation overloads and kills the other Kryptonians over time. Clark kills Zod by pushing him over the limit.

Zod successfully gains access to the life machine and sets up the terraformer. But he's too arrogant to understand the threat the humans pose and while he's giving Clark the thrashing of a lifetime, they do their sneak attack and Zod rushes back to stop it, just too late and again has an ambiguous demise/disappearance.

The Phantom Zone imprisons normal Kryptonians, but kills ones saturated by solar radiation.

"You're not the first alien that's come to this planet."

The Army found earlier Kryptonian probes and has some of the original atmospheric gas for research purposes. They use some modified bombs to gas Zod and render him vulnerable.

Clark defeats Zod and they use the gas to keep him a prisoner, without solar radiation Zod can be held and controlled.

Clark uses the VR "sea of skulls" simulation against Zod, breaks his fragile sanity and Zod ends up catatonic in an institution in a padded, Kryptonian atmosphere filled cell.

Zod is sent into the Phantom Zone, but something mutates him into Doomsday as the credits roll.

Kryptonian military is very ruthless and has devices that increase strength and aggression, like a "Berserker" device. Clark can use it to overmatch Zod in a fight, but Zod holds his own and suggest finishing off the little intermezzo in Smallville and threatens to kill is mother. Clark still in Berserker mode beats Zod into a bloody pulp.

Zod is dying anyway from spending too much time in the Phantom Zone. Clark is torn between fighting him and saving him. In this scenario the Jor El simulation promises to tell Clark everything, but is destroyed by Zod. Zod being his last link to Krypton.

Zod meets Clark in Smallville by the Kent farm, he tries to make Clark join him. When it fails he unexpectedly kills Martha. Same scenario as MoS, just more bloodshed and drama.

Despite his parents' best attempts, Clark Kent grows up to be a hoodlum who uses his still limited superpowers to break into vaults and commit crimes. When Zod appears, he's eager to join, but when they start to harm people he cares about, Clark has a change of heart and fights Zod and kills him, but vows to be a better man from now on.

Zod arrives on Earth and it's one giant North Korean concentration camp lead by Kim-Jong Kent, the utterly ruthless God-like dictator of earth.

Clark stops Zod by killing himself, but Jor El's DNA injection resurrects him into a Christ like figure.

Perry White is given a box of super cigars by Mister Mxyzptlk and saves Clark.

Nick Fury shoots Zod with some unknown energy weapon and recruits Clark into the Avengers.

Etc ...

When in doubt, go back to basics. The GA version was a "sturdy" young lady.

I will commend Man of Steel for not giving us a "classic" Superman story where you have Krypton, arrives on earth, saves something, goes to the Daily Planet, saves Lois Lane, saves some more people, fights the baddie, wins, the end. I have to admit that it was a breath of fresh air to see a different take after the vomit inducing glomping of the Donner Superman that was Superman Returns ...

The effects and the superpowers were awesome. I can't wait to see a more experienced Kal El really do some jaw dropping super speed moves and do some awesome super stunts.

Cavill fits the part IMHO, I'd love to see him get the cape back on and how he interacts with the likes of Batman, Wonder Woman etc and how he tackles Clark Kent.

No effing Crystals, HALLELUJAH !!!

For the sequel they just need to fix one little thing, please get somebody who can write a decent script rather than the bunch of brainstorming notes scribbled on a napkin that David Goyer handed in. And I'm not talking about the destruction of Metropolis either, just all the dozens of loose ends and elements that were brought up in the course of the film and are never addressed. For that Goyer deserves this :

At least they should get somebody who can work with the material and give us a solid sequel. Snyder can stay as long as he understands he's making the film, not betterifying it with his own ideas.

He's good, but his faces are his weak point.

There are several examples in history where apparently very successful societies seemed to be going backwards. China is a good example of great efforts being made to expand and influence new territories only to be abandoned after a few generations. The Roman Empire also went through static or regressive phases, like Trajan/Hadrian or the Late Empire, where the central highbrow Hellenistic culture from Rome began to be diluted by influences from the fringes of the Empire. Few people would have imagined in 1900, that barely 50 years later the British Empire would be mostly null and void.

@deathpoolthet1000 said:

Lies, Nolan did a better script and it had good writting?, i mean he is a terrible writter, awesome director, but a terrible writer

Also i like that this show Nolan wanst a producer director, he give Snyder space to do what he wantd and dindt directer the movie in the shadows, like other producer that never give people any freacking space.

Also, why people dont understand an invasion means destroy as muchs as you can with bombs, later you controls the air and then you send your army.

Avengers invasion made no sense, they send the army first then send air forces and never decide to use bombs or anything like it.

Also that it looks well one paper dont mean it would had ned being a better movie.

I don't think you understand the plans and purposes of the respective villains.

Zod wanted to kill everybody because death and destruction was the only response he was capable of as the events of MoS occurred. This is called "Genocide"

There are invasions like War of the Worlds where the aliens do have clear plans of getting rid of people and kill them all so they can rearrange the furniture to their liking. In the case of Loki this was a classic invasion and occupation. It's fairly counterproductive to become the ruler of a barren graveyard, especially, if you really want to say "Kneel before Loki" all day long and get off on watching endless processions of people on their knees before you. So the Chitauri in Avengers were there to destroy all opposition and put the fear of God, in this case Loki into everybody and make them submissive. This is called an "Invasion"

It was my impression that The Man of Steel saved the family by killing Zod before he had a chance to turn them into charcoal.

The very early Golden Age Superman was a bit of a well-meaning thug, he would throw (bad) people into the air or through walls with little regard to their fate. But he didn't kill people after that, especially when the Comics Code came into being. He was a brave boy scout and the prohibition on killing was further reaffirmed after the Crisis reboot as part of Superman's abilities allowed him to have a special understanding about how life, the universe and everything is connected and killing was a major disruption to the universal balance. Most of the killing happened in stand alone issues or Elseworlds stories. The non-killing is something he and Batman share, as well as wearing their underwear on the outside.