@kaoscrystals: What the hell is going on here??!! God reinhard erases dragon ball and all the HST just by existing.
Oh is it pre atziluth Reinhard thrn its hsrd to say.
You do know jiren can survive hakai which erases soul and body.
As for mind, people far weaker than jiren has resisted mind manipulation like vegeta was able to overcome mind manipulation.
Ki shield should be enough to do it.
At best if its pre atziluth thrn its stalemate.
And if its post atziluth/god then reinhard erases dragon ball verse
I do not see how Jiren survives conceptual erasure though.
Reinhard's spear ignores the opponent's speed and their distance as a concept and he destroys them on a level that erases them as a concept, which is completely different to Hakai, because it ignores all forms of durability. So for example the Spear can kill Tiamat from FGO that has no concept of death, it applies the concept of death, and then erasing you on a conceptual level.
Machina (one of the abilities that the spear is based on) could destroy Valerian Trifa that was stated to have anti-physical, anti-magical and even other Holy Relics (that directly attacks the souls and are magic) cannot even dent/scratch Valerian Trifa and Machina one-shots him despite Valerian Trifa having anti-magic and anti-physical. Means that Machina's conceptual erasure ignores things that are supposed to nullify what his erasure is based on. Because Machina's Holy Relic is magic and it ignored the nullification that supposed to render Machina's fists useless because of "anti-magic".
Thus it ignores durability and also nullification.