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I never realized that the green look he’s now associated with is from the late 80s/early 90s.

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Wanda is the anti-mary sue. Part of being a Mary Sue is having things turn out in your favor. Doesn't matter if she's OP. Her life is a constant nightmare.

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The lack of understanding of Thanos around here is mind-blowing sometimes.

Would you do She-Hulk vs The Annihilators? How about She-Hulk vs Multiple Heralds of Galactus? Because those are fights Thanos has won.

No one would ever make a She-Hulk vs. Silver Surfer thread here, because of Silver Surfer worship, but somehow, Thanos is considered an appropriate battle for big bricky high tiers. *Shrug*

Not only could Thanos put her down in hand to hand in less than 10 blows, but he could turn her into a vegetable with his telepathy without touching her.

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Agree, him showing up in random solo comics just to cause nonsense was great, don't get enough of that in this very micro-managed industry these days


I miss the "Why the hell not?" attitude of Marvel in the pre-Quesada era.

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@kangconquers: I don't agree

Okay, well I can't argue that.

To put a cherry on top, what tier would you put Stranger in? Obviously he's an implied Cosmic Tier, with Galactus, In-Betweener and The Celestials, but the feats are all over the place.

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@olorun said:

You got my attention PR.

nice thread, he's an abstract alright.

I remember reading an issue of ss volume 3 where they discuss his importance to the universe, and we had him being the living tribunal's counterpart but also being his potential 4th face. It was also stated that he was unknown to everyone but to the tribunal(due to their connection).

Sounds silly lol.

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I love these hard to nail down, yet o.p. Characters. Immortus, Grandmaster, The Stranger. Characters you have to dig a bit for feats, but the feats are there even if their not consistent.

That’s why I’m so curious about you doing the Collector. Not because there’s obvious, easy Good shit, but because it puts a face to a character considered unusable in battle forums for decades.

Collector is a solid B list villain now in terms of public awareness from movies and video games, as well as having a higher comics appearance count than any cosmic villains but Galactus, Thanos, High Evolutiobary, Annihilus, and The Kree and Skull. He’s a Stan Lee creation, a fixture in marvel comics for over 50 years, fighting The Avengers, GOTG, Silver Surfer and Thor.

I can’t imagine there are too many characters in Marvel that have the breadth of publication and popular culture awareness that collector has with zero RT. This was my final pitch. I’ll let it go after this, but it’s an obvious hole in the Avengers rogues gallery, the list of Silver age villains, MCU adapted characters, and cosmic pantheon.

That was my final pitch.

Collector stinky

Sucks to suck, sucker.

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I love these hard to nail down, yet o.p. Characters. Immortus, Grandmaster, The Stranger. Characters you have to dig a bit for feats, but the feats are there even if their not consistent.

That’s why I’m so curious about you doing the Collector. Not because there’s obvious, easy Good shit, but because it puts a face to a character considered unusable in battle forums for decades.

Collector is a solid B list villain now in terms of public awareness from movies and video games, as well as having a higher comics appearance count than any cosmic villains but Galactus, Thanos, High Evolutiobary, Annihilus, and The Kree and Skull. He’s a Stan Lee creation, a fixture in marvel comics for over 50 years, fighting The Avengers, GOTG, Silver Surfer and Thor.

I can’t imagine there are too many characters in Marvel that have the breadth of publication and popular culture awareness that collector has with zero RT. This was my final pitch. I’ll let it go after this, but it’s an obvious hole in the Avengers rogues gallery, the list of Silver age villains, MCU adapted characters, and cosmic pantheon.

That was my final pitch.

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@mm7910 said:

@professorrespect: first off, your condescending “cool” was childish

I was just saying it was fine to have differing opinions. That's what "cool" usually means. Your reading of it is pretty defensive so I'm not sure where that comes from. I can't really say anything to "Thor loses to Nova" because it's not a argument.

I’ve said multiple times any other Thor would win between the two

Any other Thor? What's the difference between this Thor and Beta Ray, or Masterson?

This is Rider with full Nova Force, you seem to keep forgetting this

I know.

I could certainly go find plenty of low end showings from Thor

You could, but they wouldn't be consistent. Unless it's for speed, but erm, Thor isn't fast in the first place.

Again, Thor is stronger no doubt… but we aren’t talking about base Nova

Yeah, Nova Prime. Can't beat a high tier and gets knocked around by any old powerhouse, needed Galactus to hit a big, multi-solar system busting blast just to beat Annihilus and still almost lost with assistance.

This is my position. I read the entire abnett lanning run of Nova, and my impression of his power level was a low herald tier, who would struggle with any beefy high tier.

Regardless of what Garthan Saal did with the same power, Richard Rider as Nova prime has yet to produce feats that put him near or above Thor.

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World Forger by Implication, Team Marvel by feats. Feats take the cake.