@stealth_warrior: Just wait a tad longer. Captain America is a tough guy to match, after seeing all the stuff he can do in TWS. I need more time to reconsider my options. ^_^
@redskull490: @_atomikill_: You guys are using every media form of Joker there is. I've seen you use showings from Brian Azarello's Joker, from the Animated Series, from the INJUSTICE video game......everything except what really matters!— Let's just stick to the comics, where the Joker's indomitable willpower and brain capacity left him immune to Martian Manhunter and the Spectre. Heck, both Jim Corrigan and Hal Jordan Spectres were completely lost when they attempted to "navigate" the Joker's mind; Corrigan managed to get lost in it and Jordan was literally blasted out of his boots to the moon when he tried.
So saying "Johan Liebert would make Joker kill himself" is laughable.
Manipulation is not a big deal. And, it's a game the Joker is a master at. If you want to go there with him, I'll provide his manipulation.
There we go. You don't wanna get into mind-control stuff, seriously. Joker will win every time. He manipulated his own freakin' psychiatrist at Arkham Asylum into turning herself into his crazy life-long sidekick girlfriend. He manipulates the Master Detective known as Batman on a daily basis and once got Batsy to exonerate him when he was falsely convicted of a crime (The Joker: Devil's Advocate). He manipulated the Fifth-Dimensional Imp known as Mr. Mxyzptlk into giving him unlimited reality-warping abilities. It's also incredibly conceivable that Joker would manipulate Superman during the INJUSTICE storyline into murdering his own pregnant wife and becoming the world's dictator. Need I say more?
Ya see, Joker doesn't manipulate people for the bland sake of killing. He does it because it's funny. Why kill someone when you can mentally torture them, take away their greatest assets for your own advantage, and then leave the victim to live with the experience.
"He can't manipulate Joker, the only thing you can be sure Joker will do is that he will do the unpredictable."
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