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@jeepeh: Yes you are right. My point is that it just depends on the target's power. If massive weaker characters could resist it by being strong enough then jiren would just simply won't notice it.

I'm not saying you're wrong in that, I wanted to say that I think it does bypass typical durability and attack the soul on some level. Most things in Bleach do. The only characters that get involved in conflicts in Bleach, even as humans, like Chad or Orihime, are revealed to be inhabited by parts of the Soul King. Say, if a Soul Reaper were to swing at the Abomination, or Colossus, or basically any character that doesn't have dimensional/spiritual powers, I believe their soul would be directly effected. Abomination would drop dead as his Soul is destroyed. However, Superman has feats of seeing souls, Hulk is known to interact with Spirits, and Doctor Strange is obviously a part of the spiritual world, so they wouldn't be effected.

I'm not willing to say that, if Jiren were in Bleach, that he wouldn't be considered Spiritually aware. Anyone who can shake infinity with his presence and walk through stilled time is clearly not just a physical powerhouse. Or rather, his physical power has transcended the realm of the physical.

If Jiren were to cross over into Bleach, Aizen would likely be Soul Crushed, if not outright destroyed by Jiren's Presence. The Hogyoku would have to evolve him for Eons before any actual battle could take place.
And Jiren's such a nice guy, he'd probably wait for him lmao.

In all seriousness, I think we're agreeing on the outcome more or less, we're just taking different routes to get there.

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@agustos said:
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Jiren Soul Crushes Aizen, then the Hogyoku evolves him, add infinity until it maybe eventually works.

looks like jiren would die of old age before that happens

Interesting point. Do we have any info on how long Jiren's race can live? Lmao

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"Soul crush" sounds impressive at first especially if you don't know shit about it.

It's basically just using one's supernatural energy to overpower someone's supernatural energy and crushing them. If you are physically strong enough then you could resist it. "Soul crush" in bleach isn't some kind of a hax that directly attacks soul or could negate physical durability or something.

Asking if aizen could soul crush jiren is like asking if yamcha could use ki to overpower jiren's ki.

OT : No. Jiren's aura alone will not feel it and one shots aizen trillion times over.

I mean- it did work on non spiritual beings, like when Aizen made that guy explode, and when he destroyed the cleaner via his presence alone even though they said that the cleaner was a being of "reason" not "spiritual energy". So long as they have a soul it should work.

That said, Jiren is a guy that walked through a Time Stop, and shook infinity with his presence.
I really don't think Jiren gives a single Scheisse about Aizen's spiritual pressure. His soul is probably just as buff as he is.

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Jiren Soul Crushes Aizen, then the Hogyoku evolves him, add infinity until it maybe eventually works.

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Stops at Kenpachi. Toshiro is bad match against old man yam bankai. Also why is round 6 so high ? Because of Hax I assume ?

Yamamoto's Bankai? What?

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@jeepeh said:

If he manages to nab the Hoygoku still, he just wins against literally everyone, especially once he merges with his Zanpakuto.

The big question is, will he be able to beat Yhwach in a fight?

It's arguable that he could already. He was still wearing like 90 seals when he fought Juha, and He's the only reason Ichigo survived that fight. They made Aizen use Kyoka Suigetsu in a way he never had before (making himself look like someone else in a fight rather than just making fake people in general) so that Aizen wouldn't solo Juha.

He would still have access to Kyoka Suigetsu, and with his near limitless Reiatsu reserves it wouldn't be any different from his own normally, plus he would have Yamamoto's Zanpakuto, but even stronger, and Ichigo's, but stronger, and literally every other.

What stops Aizen from using Kyoka Suigetsu, making Juha fight air, stop time with Kido, and then nuke Juha from existence with an even stronger Mugetsu and Zanka no Tachi? If Aizen is smart and keeps Kyoka activated the whole time, (which he should) then Juha's kinda done.

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If he manages to nab the Hoygoku still, he just wins against literally everyone, especially once he merges with his Zanpakuto.

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The collapsing star roaring cannon is the only thing Boros has that would hurt Tatsumaki. Meteoric Burst wouldn't even singe her clothes like PsyrochiGod's beam did. If he is faster, which there is really no way to know, but he can't beat her, then he'll tire out before he breaks her psychic shield, or she'll find a way to hold him down and twist him until his regen is overwhelmed.

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In my hopes and dreams, Jiren will show up with a new form of his own and step on Frieza's tail again.

In Canon, Frieza destroys. Which is very disappointing actually.