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@edgelord91:

Natsu did not get stronger. He just learned Suzaku's movements. Suzaku literally said it was impossible to get stronger in that short period of time and Natsu agreed with him. He was caught off guard bcs he was not expecting Suzaku to be that strong. It was the same thing that happened with Madmole, who no sold the same move that caused massive damage to Suzaku. He literally said all he had to do was to concentrate to block Suzaku's attacks lol. When Natsu fights a Dragon God he is prepared to fight at his best, but he does not do the same for the lesser enemies like Diabolos or the Moonlit Beauties which is why he has been defeated by far weaker weaker opponents than the DG countless times in the 100YQ alone.

Dragon Merc didn't oneshot Wendy or Lucy so Dragon Merc is weaker than Kyria who oneshotted both Wendy and Lucy? Neinheart KOed Jellal in one hit, Acno nor August did so I guess Neinheart >>> them. KOing someone =/= that you're stronger than the person that didn't. You're also ignoring the circumstances. Erza wasn't nerfed when fighting Irene, she was buffed by Wendy, Irene Marvell, and plot itself. Secondly Irene held back a lot and she could have oneshotted if she tried. Third if Erza lost then that would mean she would've died while if she wouldnxt have died if even she lost against Suzaku as shown in the chap. Can't have one the main protagonists dying ergo Erza couldn't just be KOed in that fight. Mashima doesn't even have the guts to kill side characters. Irene shattered all of Erza's bone in one slap. Suzaku nor Suzaku's peer could break single of Erza's bone.

It didn't amp Selene as she was causing the overflow and Erza was nerfed.

@edgelord91:

He was. He said so in their fight. All he did was need to concentrate to block Suzaku's attack.

Aldo was toying with him and then got nerfed. Natsu couldn't even perceive his attacks before the nerf and only started winning when he went DF. You're really acting like Natsu hasn't been bested by the likes of Madmole when he fights r1 against lesser opponents than God tiers. Suzaku even noted that he had different aura around him when he was going to face the Dragon Gods.

He just used an ability all dragon's slayers had at the start of the manga. It's nothing new. Secondly that move was useless as his natural dura was greater than it. All he did was have to concentrate to block his attacks barehanded lmao. He did not get stronger in that time frame. He said so in the offical translation.

Except they were not accustomed to the power increase so not everyone was operating at their best until later. Also Selene was not amped in Elentear and Erza was weakened from her fight from Youko (yet still reacted to his attack).

@edgelord91: Erza was weakened and Natsu was caught off guard. It's not like FT hasn't lost r1 before they whoop butt in r2.

Natsu went DF against Aldo and Erza was PoFium which is why she was able to be conscious even after all her bones were broken. Suzaku didn't break one bone her body. Natsu also in base came back and took Suzaku's strongest attack in barehanded in r2. Erza also beat his peer who had more mp than him and took several hours worth of his level of damage as well.

Elentear Suzaku's feats were a fluke and done when he boosted past his normal limits.

@dimitri1220: Ignia's Natsu > Natsu's therefore his fire can interact with concepts like Natsu's can. Kizaru and Akainu get vaped by him too.

@edgelord91: Dog's wall was foddered by Human Ignia. Suzaku couldn't even nick it. Suzaku didn't attack bcs he was too stunned by Ignia's power to do anything. 100% Selene craps on 100% Dog let alone a nerfed Dog as she is far above half powered Dragon Merc as stated by Merc himself. Dura and AP are the same in FT too especially for God Tiers.

Suzaku can't even beat Base Natsu and Base Natsu was shown numerous times to be fodder to a DG. Suzaku isn't human DG tier. Selene just took a dive.

@edgelord91: I would include both SF and 7DS as EoS forms.

Selene lied or she is fodder in human form as the weakest nerfed DG in human form was foddering Suzaku and took zero damage from him and Natsu at the same time. I would think it's the latter as she forced human Ignia to transform while Suzaku was laughed and foddered with a flex.

Human Acno?

Copium is high. Any DGs solos. Flash freeze doesn't work on anyone above Kyria tier let alone on FT's God tiers lol.

@edgelord91: He was also nerfed by the time Acno fought him as well. He beat Zeref and Acno back to back. That is far above anything current Natsu has done. Base Zeref alone was enough to kill Aldoron let alone FH Zeref. SF/7DS Natsu was undoubtedly stronger than any version of Natsu in the 100YQ. Same as Erza who was able to destroy Deus Sema, which scales above GG, with all her bones broken and swat Acno out of the sky. Current Erza is nowhere near as strong as GG and she failed to even budge Merc, a half powered Acno tier opponent. Some characters in EoS were undoubtedly stronger bcs they were on PoFium to the max lol.

Suzaku? Suzaku is just Gild tier or lower. He isn't on the same level as August/Irene. His peer got beat by a super nerfed Irene aka Wendy lol.

@darklord10: I don't. Laxus can't take hax ergo why he lost to Kyria and Faris. Irene is way more hax than either of them.

@edgelord91: When the statement is contradicted by the feats then I think the statement should not be taken seriously. Especially when most characters weren't stronger at the start of the 100YQ besides Lucy lol.

EoS Natsu was killing buffed god tiers. Current Natsu can barely take a half powered DG while being backed by FT or another person lol.

Outside the god tiers who is August and Irene level? Duke and Signario Sisters being above Serena does not mean they're August and Irene level.