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#1  Edited By jaywray

Why is Monarch 4th? when he's arguably the strongest there....

Bills makes it to 3, I'm not sure how much FTL Man Hunter is, so there's a chance Bills could Blitz.

4 he gets stomped horribly.

Who GLC wins.

Black Atom gets destroyed.

Flash wins.

SBP wins.

Pre-52 or post crisis Darkseid loses.

Mr Majestic is Mr Majestic and wins.

All the results could easily change when a decent sub of the movie comes out.

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Give me one example of Superman giving up because an enemy was too difficult to beat.

He barely ever has to, every single low end showing with Superman there's always some "oh he was holding back, Superman ALWAYS holds back" bs.

I mean fair enough if that is the case but I've heard about like 2/3 legit examples of him actually showing commitment through an actual struggle (One being death of superman which I think you actually pointed out)

(Not sure about new 52, after looking into it, the new 52 Superman looks good)

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@mirrorwave4 said:

Bills solos DC

I hope this is a joke. Or are you trolling?

I think he's just very very very wrong lol

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#4  Edited By jaywray

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I quite honestly do not understand why anyone would vote for the defending team. Lists =/= debates. Call me old-fashioned, but I also like punctuation in tournament posts. Cadence and Nick were certainly superior on the debating side of this thread, which is the only part that matters. The double-team gets my vote.

Quite simply this.

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Well, I own and read the manga volumes and I don't remember that scan at all.

Which one are you talking about? 2/3 I've seen myself in person, the only one I haven't is the first one.

Also regardless of all that, I don't think I can be bothered with this, there are a few like you on the internet who question every single little thing of dbz that if it wasn't shown/stated/word of god/Toriyama go to your house and tell you.

You wouldn't be happy.

I'm not going to bother from here, it's boring and old.

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There have been multiple copies of that scan thrown around the internet. It's one of the more notorious imo. Here's one of them...

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In this scan it simply says it was destroyed. Now, If I can find a volume of DBZ that explicitly says such, then I will concede. But for now, that scan holds no water.....but even soit doesn't matter at what form frieza destroyed a planet since destructive capacity seems to plateau for a while......



I have read the dbz manga on 5+ sites and every single one has said the same thing, except for yours.

So there's that.

regardless.


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There's another one.

and the fact that King Cold out right states that Earth is nothing and they could destroy it in a single blast again, goes against what you're saying.


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Ps saying that my scans hold no water, when your scans look absolutely terrible quality wise, Ill happily say at least mine look somewhat well done and id happily trust mine over yours.

Although I do not own the official translated manga myself. As it's £400 and I don't have that much.

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So base form, right? If that's what you meant, it was never stated that he destroyed planet vegeta himself in the manga. All he says is that he eradicated the saiyans. Also Raditz and Vegeta both saying asteroids destroyed the planet and i'm pretty sure frieza said it too (Although I would have to go back home and reread the volume to make sure). Point is, only the anime shows him explicitly destroying the planet.

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....Of course I suppose this is hyperbole and just doesn't count as well as every other thing in DBZ as Toriyama is just that kind of writer.

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I am sad :(

DBZ fans make Goku hated amongst the comic community.

I mean, I always think that Goku could give the likes of Superman a good fight and all, but the reasoning that these fan (boys) bring up is ridiculous and mindnumbing. Still like properly done DBZ threads though, without "DBZ logic."

While there are a lot of dbz fanboys, on comicvine there are a hell of a lot of anime and dbz haters for the sake of being haters.

Superman would beat Goku, but the idea that it's a 1hit ko is actually laughable when Superman has shown he's the same amount of conviction to win as a 12 year old. (There are some awesome exceptions though)
But it saddens me to say I can see why comic fans have come to hate Goku, dbz fanboys often put them in Galaxy buster range which is just silly.

I've always said DBZ characters would be solar system if you just lined all the planets up for them, but no chance of actually busting an entire solar system in one go off the bat.

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@uberhikari: Crap, sorry, meant to click edit instead of delete. Reposting:

The "Super Saiyan 2" is an English Translation thing from the Buu saga, don't talk all snidely at me when you don't even know the context.

This is exactly what I was thinking when I seen his reply. ^

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@jaywray said:

God damnit really... I mean really? Galactus stomps. Please stop, as a fricken huge DBZ fan, please stop.

It ain't over until there's DBZ math involve man.

I am sad :(
DBZ fans make Goku hated amongst the comic community.