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.... Is this for real? a basic Ki blast from Jenemba would massacre Sephiroth.

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SSJ4 is 10x stronger than SSJ3. Based on feats alone, SSJ4 gets slaughters but some early DBZ villains but to take GT scaling into account we really need to know a proper mulitplier for SSJG. We don't know how much stronger (if at all) Goku is as an SSJ4 than an SSJG.

It'd be nice if there was an official manga published, that'd help a hell of a lot for calculations lol.

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@killemall: Thanks for the clarification Killemall :)

Looking at how his powers work, and the feats he's capable of, Id say the result of this fight depends entirely on the state of mind Plutonian is in, is that fair to say?

Unless he has some examples of extreme combat speed Id say Bills wins if he doesn't play around and doesn't want Plutonian to reach full potential, but it's in his character to do so, it's a difficult one.

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@jaywray: W

hen I say crush, I don't mean in the actually sense of the word.

IT has been responded to by people that have much much slower reaction time than The Flash. Kid Buu is one and Super 17 is another (if you count GT. I personally don't)

Point being, that's just not fast enough. If it's a fight to the death, Flash will start serious. He might not be blood lust, IMP at start serious, but Goku can not tag The Flash.

Please don't bring up GT.

Btw IT is faster than flash in every single way, the only people faster than IT are Zoom level.

True people have reacted to IT, but saying "Point being, that's just not fast enough." when it's literally infinitely faster than Flash is a bit much, regardless current Goku can tap into God mode at any time.

Flash doesn't start off giving everything he's got, he's never done that.

Either way Flash wins, as you said he could react to IT, but I doubt you've seen any of the clips from the movie of Goku using it, he's on a different level that the IT that was used before, he's mastered it in combat.

Flash gets serious then wins, it's out of character to blitz right off the bat.

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@theorder14

: Just no.

I don't know if New Goku is FTL, given that i haven't seen the movie. However, The Flash will not lose to Goku. Unless you can post some serious speed feats from this new movie, The Flash destroys him before he has the time to even consider SSJG form.

For Flash to do that he'd have to be blood lusted.

Flash wins, but since Goku can tap into the SSJG modes power at any time, and can Instant transmission any time, he'd probably be able to keep up with flash for a good bit until Flash gets serious and wins.

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#6  Edited By jaywray

@thundergodswrath said:

@neongamewave said:

Bills is FTL in combat as well as travel speed, has thousands of years of combat experience, has destroyed stars, planets and worlds. He is also a galaxy buster as well but the Plutonian is extremely powerful in his own right.

Galaxy buster? Shown it, or was it stated?

Neither, it's speculative.

He's stated to be able to wipe out a solar system in an instant though, if that helps.

@uberhikari

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@slimj87d: I've been trying to find video of the scene where Buu tries to turn Bills into candy, but I can't find it. And without seeing it it's hard to know precisely how Bills resisted being transmuted by Buu and, therefore, difficult to assess the limits of Bills resistance to transmutation. However, a couple of things needs to be noted.

First, Buu's candy beam works based on magic not telekinesis like Tony's abilities. So, this is really like comparing apples to oranges. If anything, this seems like a great magic resistance feat for Bills rather than a straightforward resistance to transmutation or molecular manipulation.

Second, Buu's candy beam and the way it's been used in the manga really defies logic, lol. When Vegito was turned into candy, for example, he was more like a disembodied consciousness that took the form of a piece of candy. Obviously, when something is genuinely transmuted that shouldn't be possible.
Then again, Buu's candy beam has worked on pretty much everybody without fail (it even worked on Vegito even though it was clear that Vegito outclassed him in every other way). So, perhaps Bills does have the ability to control his own molecules. Then the question becomes: Is Tony's psionic ability stronger than Bill's ability to control his own molecules? I don't know, Tony has some pretty impressive psionic feats. Plus, resisting transmutation doesn't mean you can resist having your durability bypassed.

Hmm, I think it's pretty clear from the fact that it worked on Vegito that Ki is not what resists against Buu's transmutation, so there's only really 2 other options, 1 Bills has solid resistance to matter manipulation, or 2 he just happens to know Buus magic and can nullify it.

Given that he'd never met Buu before, id go with the former, but it's still debatable.

Is anyone able to shed some light on this Picosecond speed feat of Plutonians? I mean, he raced a signal and beat it to earth, but where did it start from? how far away from eart etc? That could either mean MFTL or barely FTL depending.

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#7  Edited By jaywray

@jaywray said:

Billz wat r u doin, Billz... stahp.

But really please stop making spite threads against DBZ without even realising it.

is bills still too powerful for them???

wow dc really is weak

So basically you're just a troll?


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Billz wat r u doin, Billz... stahp.

But really please stop making spite threads against DBZ without even realising it.

I agree.No one in DBZ is on Morningstar level.I like DBZ but they are not on the same league with Morningstar.

Dude I'm a HUGE DBZ fan through and through, it's just getting stupid now though, I often wonder if Toriyama is purposely vague with feats just to rile up people on both ends hahaha

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True. It is a treat seeing him let loose every once and a while though, for me personally.

He's been kicked around quite a lot in the New 52.

Superman and the Men of Steel was quite good, which was Action Comics issues 1-8.

Ill give it a try asap :)

Just so you know, Ill gladly change my tune if I read other wise :), I've honestly actually read quite a bit of Superman but it's only to keep up to dates with big dc events, so perhaps Superman just isn't shown in a great light in them.

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#9  Edited By jaywray

Billz wat r u doin, Billz... stahp.

But really please stop making spite threads against DBZ without even realising it.

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Too be fair, if he didn't hold back at all, he'd probably kill a lot of people and do a LOT of damage to Metropolis.

Early Action Comics Superman is awesome, dude.

That's sorta my problem though, there's always some wee "oh Superman didn't use his heat vision or this or that", and the thing is, that they're all justified, I realise this.

I just want to see Superman in some sort of actual hard fought struggle, hell, even some of his fights against Darkseid are pretty mundane.

Got any Arcs to recommend? or should I read new 52 first?