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#1 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3258 posts) - - Show Bio

@xtrabs said:

Is there any special reason why some are saying Team 1 stomps? Granted they have Surfer and Manhunter, but team 2 does have Thor and Superman (and Binary it seems). Is it the same old Manhunter TPs and WW decaps?

Surfer makes Superman (who's probably the most important person on the team) and Supergirl useless by draining their solar energy. Sentry, Gladiator, and Binary almost have no business being in this fight, and Thor can't possibly take all these people on his own...I'd dare say this is actually spite

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#2 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3258 posts) - - Show Bio

@tedirey said:

Wonder Woman solos

there can actually be a proper argument to back this up imo

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#3 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3258 posts) - - Show Bio

Beyonder

@tethadam said:

I still dont understand how darksied has a true form when no other New god has one?

oh damn, I never even thought about that! That's a good point

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#4 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3258 posts) - - Show Bio

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@itouchedtheboat said:

Full confidence Gladiator isn't even on Supergirl's level imo

@unrequited1 said:

Gotta ask yourself, "Does Glads have the same juice as Sentry to give it all he's got and depower WBH back to human Banner?" Personally, I don't think he does...

WBH >= Sentry > Gladiator

you're mistaken. Sentry fought World War Hulk which is largely weaker than WBH

Regardless of what exact points in the story arc you believe Hulk was "worldbreaker", the results of this battle are still the same. Gladiator loses.

World war hulk isn't weaker. They're the same character. WB is just bloodlusted/not-holding back.

I think that's a discussion for another thread tbh. Personally I think Hulk's statement about holding back was more ego than anything, I say this mainly because of the huge power difference and how WBH had a totally different aura of sorts.

but I guess OT we all agree Gladiator loses lol

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#5 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3258 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3 said:

@itouchedtheboat: John Steward literally said that Zod and his family became as strong as Superman, implying that they were normally much weaker before being amped.

oh yeah but that goes without saying. I think there was something in Superman's DNA that put him way above normal Kryptonian physicals. Man of Steel did a good job of explaining it, but I don't think it was ever explained in the books.

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#6 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3258 posts) - - Show Bio

Full confidence Gladiator isn't even on Supergirl's level imo

Gotta ask yourself, "Does Glads have the same juice as Sentry to give it all he's got and depower WBH back to human Banner?" Personally, I don't think he does...

WBH >= Sentry > Gladiator

you're mistaken. Sentry fought World War Hulk which is largely weaker than WBH

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#7 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3258 posts) - - Show Bio

maybe these are movie and show versions?

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#8 Edited by ITouchedTheBoat (3258 posts) - - Show Bio

@warlockmage said:
@itouchedtheboat said:
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@itouchedtheboat said:
@warlockmage said:
@yamiyodare said:

Superman solos, Thor solos, Hal Jordan solos. Spite.

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laugh all you want but that is closer to the truth than saying Surfer stomps

lol no its actually further from the truth since the very notion that NEW 52 Superman could even tickle the Surfer is sheer stupidity.

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laughable, just like Silver Surfer's blunt force durability, has he ever even tanked a punch that shook a planet before? I can't remember

he literally tanked Michael Korvac building a planet around him

The Avengers Annual 16...

you probably can't remember because your overall knowledge is poor... i recommend doing more reading

....and that's the same thing to you? HAHAHAHAHA I knew this was going to be a waste of time the second I replied to you XD but the vine never fails to entertain me.

maybe my knowledge is poor but I do know this...

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remember when Drax sent Surfer flying in the opposite direction he was flying (while Surfer was amped btw)?

same guy couldn't do the same to Thor, in fact they had a pretty long fight, never once did Thor get the same treatment that Surfer got...hmmm wonder why?

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but guess what did make him go flying like a rag doll?

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a punch that was felt around the planet. but what do I know?

have a good day

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#9 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3258 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3 said:

@itouchedtheboat: You should take a look at my post in this tourney. Hal in Rebirth is way above planet busting tier or even star level, which is why Superman fodderizing him is such a great feat

oh yeah! Totally forgot about that feat! Supes hit him harder than Double sun amped Zod didn't he

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#10 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3258 posts) - - Show Bio

@baph said:

@itouchedtheboat:

He is, he has more years which means he'll have more low-showings, but he's actually more consistent compared to Rebirth Superman who even though he has a less years, he's far more inconsistent.

well I guess I'd take your word for it, since most of Pre52 was way before my time lol

No, Superman isn't a planet buster nor can he tank star level punches consistently.

he has feats that can back up both, multiple feats that back these things. But like I said (and you said too) he's not always written like that, which was my point.

But given all the years Pre-52 Superman has, compared to Rebirth he's far more consistent, Rebirth Superman has been too inconsistent so far, and even though the writers sometimes portrayed Pre-52 Superman as a character below high-tiers, what matters is how consistent he was throughtout the years.

like I said, I can't say since I haven't read Pre52 that much. I only read a lot of Batman books back then

Using a feat that isn't exactly quantifiable nor combat applicable in anyway isn't a good way to measure the difference in power levels between Pre-52 and Rebirth Hal Jordan.

you're absolutely right. However considering that Superman flew from Earth to Oa within a few seconds and never encountered the same issue you can pretty much say Hal was traveling much faster than that. And using that feat was just an example of how much superior he is now than Pre52. I've seen other feats but I don't really remember them.